If Not Joe, Then Who?

Then why does the military have drill sergeants? They inspire, motivate the troops, and won't accept failure. The skins dont have motivators on the coaching staff or on the field? Where is the skins Ray Lewis?

The military and the NFL are apples and oranges.

That tough guy stuff grows old pretty quick in the NFL and it's not long before players tune that stuff out.

Then why does the military have drill sergeants? They inspire, motivate the troops, and won't accept failure. The skins dont have motivators on the coaching staff or on the field? Where is the skins Ray Lewis?

Parcells had players follow him everywhere he went "Parcells guys". Granted gibbs took some time off, but do you think that if he went to another team anyone would follow him? No! Does anyone follow Norv, No!There is a need for a decisive leader starting at head coach, players will see that and follow that person, at this point this team mulls around with no direction. When there is a time to be decisive (end of games and quarters) there is no direction and it is directly reflected upon the team and how it carries itself. False starts, penalties, turnovers, and poor clock managment are a sign of a poorly coached team.

Some coaches (ie. Bellichek, Cohwer, Schottenheimer) have a fire inside that players see and want to follow. All i hear from the Skins players is "i dont want to let coach gibbs down" and "i feel so sorry for him".
The military only uses drill sergeants in the begining of a military career. Their goal is to break down the civilian to then mold them into something different.... has nothing to do with the NFL.

But... some players respond to hard asses... and some want the "players coach".

It is just the right type of coach, with the right type of team. Last decent coach we had was Marty... took him a bit to get the team going in the right direction after Norv screwed us up... but he got it there... to bad we got rid of him for the wonderful head coach Spurrier.

Okay how about this? Joe Gibb's teams have only won 43% of the time since he has been back, that is failing by far. Can anyone honestly say this team is getting better? The skins were on the 4 year superbowl plan, are the pieces, and leadership in place to make a run for the superbowl next year. That would assume that they re-due the O-line fix the secondary (replace springs and taylor) as well as the D-line and find some WRs in the offseason, and get on the same page, As well as fixing the myriad of coaching gaffs that have happened over the past 4 years.

The whole cowher thing is a bad idea if you want to win over the next 3 years. It will take him 2 years to get the guys he drafts (for his system) up to speed. Compound that with the fact that it will stunt our offensive chemistry (with a young QB and shaky receiving corps) for at least a year or so til they learn a new system under cowher's guy...i'm assuming saunders wont wanna stay on unless he has control over the offense. On top of that we will be losing a lot of veterans because of an imminent cap nightmare over the next two years.

I think we are in this damned if u do damned if u don't situation with our coaching staff and players. The coaches (Cowher, GW, Saunders) are all dominant egos who want complete control. The players are either too young to change a system and pick it up quickly enuff to win immediately or too old to be able to stick around for a few years while we rebuild.

B/c of all that, GW is the best candidate IF Gibbs steps down which i think he won't. He will stick around for one more year...if we do well then he will move to FO duties and let GW take over or if we do poorly, we will look outside for his replacement.

Just think how good the Colts could be if only Tony Dungy wasn't such a softie...

Instead of hiring Cowher, why not just hire Dick Lebeau? Isn't he the real genius behind their defensive culture? You can hire any damn fool to scream and make faces. Plus, Lebeau is in his 70s (I think) so it will piss off all the right people in this forum.

Just think how good the Colts could be if only Tony Dungy wasn't such a softie...

Touche,
Peyton Manning is basically the coach on offense and leader of that team tho.

Anyways.... I think GW should takeover for Gibbs, keep Saunders as the O coach if he will stay. They players respect GW, and he is a great leader.

Bring back Marty....we went 8-8 with Tony Banks as our quarterback....imagine what he could do with Campbell and that defense

Instead of hiring Cowher, why not just hire Dick Lebeau? Isn't he the real genius behind their defensive culture? You can hire any damn fool to scream and make faces. Plus, Lebeau is in his 70s (I think) so it will piss off all the right people in this forum.
Nah, Cowher was good with whoever his many coordinators were....

Lebeau was the head coach of the bungles... and we all know how well he did with that.

I hate retread coaches that have failed. That is why I say Grimm who has never been, or Cowher who has been successful.