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Cowell 12-02-2007, 06:27 PM Were you around in 2003? We were straight up getting blown out in games. Do you prefer getting blown out and being the laughing stock of the league to losing close games? We should have a better record and the blame for not having one falls on the players' shoulders, the assistant coaches' shoulders, and, of course, on Gibbs' shoulders. But to think that this team is as bad or worse as the 2003 Spurrier team is simply incorrect IMO.
As much as I hate to say it, but sometimes I think I would rather see us lose by a little bit more. Or at least trail at halftime when we lose. It's just so hard to take it when you are winning the whole game and then you lose it in the last 10-15 seconds.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-02-2007, 06:29 PM As much as I hate to say it, but sometimes I think I would rather see us lose by a little bit more. Or at least trail at halftime when we lose. It's just so hard to take it when you are winning the whole game and then you lose it in the last 10-15 seconds.
I understand the sentiment; losing games you should win hurts big. But, I wouldn't trade this season for 2003 in a million years. I distinctly remember teams actually laughing at how bad we were. We can't win games we should (the hallmark of a good team), but we're not pathetic. We just can't close games (again, the hallmark of a good team).
BigSKINBauer 12-02-2007, 06:30 PM Were you around in 2003? We were straight up getting blown out in games. Do you prefer getting blown out and being the laughing stock of the league to losing close games? We should have a better record and the blame for not having one falls on the players' shoulders, the assistant coaches' shoulders, and, of course, on Gibbs' shoulders. But to think that this team is as bad or worse as the 2003 Spurrier team is simply incorrect IMO.
I am also including my favorite redskin dying in the fact that this is the worst i've ever felt. I feel sick and am in unbelievably bad mood. I don't even want to talk to my best friends. I think i'll get pissed off at something not worth it. I just feel like going to sleep. This is absolutely horrible.
SouperMeister 12-02-2007, 06:34 PM this sucks. I don't think i'll ever see a good skins team. Its not fair. This is the worst i've ever felt being a skins fan, and that is saying something. Obviously this week has been horrible. Lets just hope that we turn something around and play better in the coming weeks.I have no doubt that the Skins will be good again someday. That said, I believe the greatest mistake of the way this team was built early in Gibbs 2.0 was putting more emphasis on glitzy skill position players than the men in the trenches that were so valued during Gibbs 1.0. "Gibbs football" values running the football on offense and stoping the run on defense. To do both consistently, more emphasis must be placed on drafting young studs.
Although the team is mediocre and inconsistent, they do play hard and are competitive every game. Keep the faith - someday, they'll put it together. Just probably not during this season of injury and heartbreak.
desperadoinfl 12-02-2007, 06:34 PM I love Joe Gibbs and I love John Riggins, but their time has come and gone. Jayson needs to grow, our defense needs to put pressure on QB's and we need to finish the game.
I have never been so dispondent in the 4th quarter. I have always felt we had a chance. If it is close in the 4th quarter I expect to loose. Say what you will, but we do it time and again.
Ok hammer away.
BigSKINBauer 12-02-2007, 06:37 PM I have no doubt that the Skins will be good again someday. That said, I believe the greatest mistake of the way this team was built early in Gibbs 2.0 was putting more emphasis on glitzy skill position players than the men in the trenches that were so valued during Gibbs 1.0. "Gibbs football" values running the football on offense and stoping the run on defense. To do both consistently, more emphasis must be placed on drafting young studs.
Although the team is mediocre and inconsistent, they do play hard and are competitive every game. Keep the faith - someday, they'll put it together. Just probably not during this season of injury and heartbreak.
Yeah probably. When we win, i'll punch someone in the face if they call me a bandwagon fan. My friends will obviously know the truth but if some stranger says anything of the sort I'll go crazy.
twinskinsfan 12-02-2007, 06:39 PM I hate to break it to the original post, but this hasn't been their normal week of preparation. I think our season is probably over. Losing Sean Taylor is like losing a Tom Brady. During the field goal, all I could picture is Taylor coming across and blocking the kick and running it to the house. We played the best we could.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-02-2007, 06:40 PM I am also including my favorite redskin dying in the fact that this is the worst i've ever felt. I feel sick and am in unbelievably bad mood. I don't even want to talk to my best friends. I think i'll get pissed off at something not worth it. I just feel like going to sleep. This is absolutely horrible.
I hear ya BSB, I'm absolutely heartbroken. To have Sean, a Pro-Bowl, HoF-caliber safety, taken away from us has made me feel a pain I haven't ever felt. I am simply depressed and, outside of this forum, I don't think people understand me. My friends who are not Redskins fans have been really kind, but they simply can't understand why I am so upset.
SouperMeister 12-02-2007, 06:40 PM I love Joe Gibbs and I love John Riggins, but their time has come and gone. Jayson needs to grow, our defense needs to put pressure on QB's and we need to finish the game.
I have never been so dispondent in the 4th quarter. I have always felt we had a chance. If it is close in the 4th quarter I expect to loose. Say what you will, but we do it time and again.
Ok hammer away.It gets back to the way the team was built. Before Gibbs arrived, we had a chance to draft bulldozing guard Steve Hutchinson, and we opted for Rod Gardner. Everywhere Hutchinson has played (Seattle and Minnesota), you've seen GREAT running attacks. Gibbs still plays it close to the vest, but we cannot count on our personnel to salt a game away by pounding the ball in the 4th quarter. I believe there is a disconnect in the type of team Gibbs wants to be and the players that we're acquiring. I'd even argue that Portis would be a much better fit in a wide open attack than a pound it out approach.
MTRedskinsFan 12-02-2007, 06:41 PM Were you around in 2003? We were straight up getting blown out in games. Do you prefer getting blown out and being the laughing stock of the league to losing close games? We should have a better record and the blame for not having one falls on the players' shoulders, the assistant coaches' shoulders, and, of course, on Gibbs' shoulders. But to think that this team is as bad or worse as the 2003 Spurrier team is simply incorrect IMO.
I appreciate the reminder. Your post and this thread make me want to start thinking more and more of the future of the organization - I am a forward-looking guy almost all the time. However, I guess I don't feel it's the right time for that just yet. I know a lot of guys want to see something miraculous from this season and the current Gibbs era, so I won't be the one to try to start a serious analysis about what direction the Redskins need to take (and who should lead them).
But eventually, is it going to be alright w/ most everyone for that kind to discussion?
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