Who called the 2nd timeout?

I'm sorry that you live in the past. I don't and if that makes me a "what have you done for me lately" guy then I am guilty as charged. I want to win now not relive the glory years from 15+ years ago.

And I am sorry that you have no sense of gratitude. For the sake of the board, I'm done with this dialogue.

Gibbs II certainly hasn't worked out the way most of us thought it would. But why is it exactly that the Gibbs haters are so quick to dismiss the 2005 season? I've heard people dismiss the 2005 season because we played banged-up teams. But then those very same people dismiss our injuries as irrelevant excuses. So excuses are fine when they are used against us and are unacceptable when used for us? You can say Gibbs II isn't a success, but to say we have done nothing is simply wrong.

The stretch run in 2005 was a lot of fun, but the fact remains that we started 5-6 and needed lightning in a bottle to make the playoffs. Yes we made it, but our offense had all the issues it still does today.

The frustrating thing is we've had the same problems year in and year out during Gibbs 2.0. Turnovers, clock mismanagement, big issues with fundamentals, allowing big plays on D, blowing leads in the 2nd half, etc, etc. I know we've had some bad luck with injuries, but when the all little things don't get any better week in and week out, year in and year out, it becomes maddening.

It was drunken rage. You know how alcohol makes people moody. :doh:
It's not the alcohol. I'm convinced most of our fanbase is bi-polar. Redskins fans should be issued a prescription for prozac with every jersey purchase.

And I am sorry that you have no sense of gratitude. For the sake of the board, I'm done with this dialogue.

I thought I said I was glad Gibbs won those SBs back in the day. I am grateful but Gibbs aint doing it and like a previous poster said, to keep an unsuccessful coach on indefinitely because of what he did 15 years ago just makes no sense.

If this was any other coach I really think he'd be fired but its Gibbs so he wont.

It was stunning to hear the "Joe must go!" chants at the beginning of Post Game live. Who would have imagined Gibbs et al would be such a disaster? Not me thats for sure.


And of all weeks to chant this!!!!

Sorry, not EVER could those words leave my lips. Yes, I'm fustrated, but I am loyal to the end. I've been to the promised land of SBs 17,22 and 26.

I thought I said I was glad Gibbs won those SBs back in the day. I am grateful but Gibbs aint doing it and like a previous poster said, to keep an unsuccessful coach on indefinitely because of what he did 15 years ago just makes no sense.


That's fine. But to chant (i can't even write it) is stupid.

The stretch run in 2005 was a lot of fun, but the fact remains that we started 5-6 and needed lightning in a bottle to make the playoffs. Yes we made it, but our offense had all the issues it still does today.

The frustrating thing is we've had the same problems year in and year out during Gibbs 2.0. Turnovers, clock mismanagement, big issues with fundamentals, allowing big plays on D, blowing leads in the 2nd half, etc, etc. I know we've had some bad luck with injuries, but when the all little things don't get any better week in and week out, year in and year out, it becomes maddening.

It definitely does become maddening. And Gibbs' mistake today was awful....a rookie mistake that no HoF coach should make. I pounded me fist on the bar and spilt beer when he called it. I told my girlfriend that I knew that rule from madden. A guy who is paid millions of dollars can't make that mistake.

I am still convinced that our struggles in Gibbs II, and for the past decade, stem from the lack of a quality QB. JC looks promising, but his turnovers at inopportune times have been fatal to our season. I am convinced that as JC gets more experience, he will play better football and so will our team. And our future success will have a lot less to do with coaching than JC getting experience and securing the ball better.

This season, the injuries just compound JC's inexperience. The right tackle ......gone. The right guard......gone. The #1 corner.....frequently banged up. The #2 corner......gone. Sean Taylor missed the past few weeks and teams exploited our inexperienced safeties. And now, Sean has passed away. That's the right side of the line and 3/4 of the secondary, not to mention injuries to guys like Griffin, Rabach, Smoot, Washington, Daniels, ARE, Moss, and less important guys like Thrash.

I know people say, "the injury excuse gets old." I don't accept that kind of statement. Either they are tired of the injuries but accept the reality that having a large numbers of injured players really hurt our team OR they don't accept that injuries of this order really affect our play.

It really only bothers me when people want to dismiss 2005 when those same people aren't quick to dimsiss our free agent moves in 2000 for example.

As for Gibbs, stupid mistake. He knows it, you know it, I know it. But I am not going to apologize for being a fan of his, and wanting him to stay as long as he wants to stay. In all honesty, he probably never should have come back in the first place. There's nothing he really could have done to improve his image with the fans. He had nowhere to go reputation wise but down. I believe we have the makings of a great QB who is going to lead us to great things long after Gibbs is gone. But no one will ever be appreciative of Gibbs for that.

The skins are doing what they always do late in the fourth quarter, running out of gas and having a meltdown before losing the game, gibbs need to go back to racing I don't see any improvements at all with his coaching style, and Al Saunders is not helping matters any either, he needs to burn that so-called playbook of his, it ain't helping em win games like it should. What are they gonna do against chicago? The team motto should be Maybe Next Year!

They were going to make the FG anyway. Their kicker is money and stroked the first one through no problem.

The game to me boiled down to another week of redzone ineffectiveness. You can't keep kicking FGs, even if we just got one TD it would have been different game.