6 Turnovers= A poorly coached team

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MTK
11-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Why are some people so reluctant to place blame where it belongs, on the players.

Why is it always the coaches fault??

Twilbert07
11-25-2007, 08:45 PM
I disagree. gibbs wasn't on the field fumbling. I love campbell but he throws ''young qb'' ints. that's not coaching but experience. gibbs chewed them out at halftime and they responded. now that's coaching.

Gibbs wasn't on the field throwing TDs in the Super Bowl, but we all say he won three throphies. Some of the sloppy play has to go back to coaching, or at least making sure the right players are in the game and dropping the ball like S. Moss.

skinsfan69
11-25-2007, 08:45 PM
Teams that are coached well dont have 6 turnovers or numerous mental errors. Gibbs thought it would be a good idea to let his players workout on thier own during the offseason, well here are the results, nagging hamstring injuries (conditioning), fumbles (can be corrected with coaching), and overall lack of contineuety (for some reason campbell and his WRs couldnt find time in the offseason to meet up and throw the ball around), clock management, offsides penalties..... the list goes on.

I have been one to rip Gibbs for clock mgt. not going for it on 4th downs and so on. But today I didn't have any issues with the coaches. 2 TO's were bad throws. One was a hard hit on Portis. How does that play into coaching? These guys are taught to hang on to the ball. Silly thread.

twinskinsfan
11-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Gibbs knows how to coach. 3 Superbowls. End of story

Twilbert07
11-25-2007, 08:46 PM
How are fumbles a coaching issue???

Wow.

With Campbell, I say coaching does come into play. Now that he's fumbled in several of the last games, someone needs to coach him up about holding onto the ball and feeling the pressure.

NYCSkin
11-25-2007, 08:48 PM
How are fumbles a coaching issue???

Wow.
Gibbs did not instruct Moss, Portis, and Campbell to sleep with a Wilson this week. Therefore, it is Gibbs' fault...

skinsfan69
11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
With Campbell, I say coaching does come into play. Now that he's fumbled in several of the last games, someone needs to coach him up about holding onto the ball and feeling the pressure.

What are you talking about???????????????????????????????
He was in the motion of throwing the ball. 100% not his fault! Jeez!

MTK
11-25-2007, 08:55 PM
What are you talking about???????????????????????????????
He was in the motion of throwing the ball. 100% not his fault! Jeez!

I agree, if anything you have to blame the lack of protection.

hurrykaine
11-25-2007, 08:56 PM
How are fumbles a coaching issue???

Wow.

Gibbs is not on the field making the mental mistakes, fumbling, throwing bad INTs, committing dumb penalties, giving up sacks, letting Terrel Owens run free, etc.

Great teams commit 6 turnovers a game every once in a while too - hell, look at Indy against SD last time. Certainly doesn't mean Indy is poorly coached.

However, in 3.5 years, Gibbs and Co. were supposed to turn this team into a consistent, above-average performer. That means, if Gibbs and Co. had done what they said they would do when they took over, we shouldn't see multiple turnovers, an entire half of bad play, second half collapses, dumb penalties from veterans, etc. as frequently as we do from this team. For a well coached team, these types of mistakes should be the exception rather than the rule week to week.

Any head coach not named Gibbs, and we'd be collectively calling for a firing. The expectations from Gibbs and Co. were understandably high given Gibbs' past record, but given how far short of expectations they've delivered, its appropriate to start asking these types of questions, IMO.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-25-2007, 08:57 PM
I will grant you that the Moss fumble was a sort of freak thing. However, regardless of whether Samuels failed to sustain a block or not, JC does bring the ball low before delivering a pass, and he does get stripped a lot. A failure to correct a recurring problem is a coaching flaw. Gibbs allowed all the players to work out on their own this off-season, but he also allowed CP to take off the entire pre-season. The result? It took Portis 5 or 6 games into the regular season to get up to speed. If Portis does not want to play pre-season games, fine, but Gibbs better be damn sure he is going to be ready when the season starts.

I seem to recall an awful lot of people getting angry with Gibbs for exposing Portis to injury in the preseason and then watching Portis go down with a shoulder injury. So Gibbs is dumb for using Portis in the preseason and getting him injured AND for not using him in the preseason?

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