Gibbs can't retire just yet

A year under Campbell's belt should cut fumbling and interceptions and stop losing the close games

Defense held Dallas to good enough score according to their previous games
even losing secondary stars except TO scores
Daniels played a game and the fumble and interception by Campbell hurt
Dallas in December coming and Campbell should be better then

That fumble was not Campbell's fault IMO. The INT was a bad play. Sooner or later, we have to see results from Campbell, though. He's got to deliver us a win, otherwise it'll be meaningless to keep talking about his potential.

Hit receivers in stride (like he hit Cooley today) for a TD. We need more of that.

It's funny that outside of the Warpath there is little belief (based on the evidence) that Gibbs is a big positive force for this team. The truth is that because of the staff structure it's very hard to know who is responsible for what, which is often evident on gameday. That said, I think the structure needs to change significantly for next season. Maybe that means Gibbs retires as I've suggested. Maybe it means Saunders goes instead. I don't really know the answer at this point, but what I do know is that whatever was tried this year was a flop. The only reason we lost the game by 5 pts today instead of 30 is because the ball was put in JC's hands. It doesn't take the "genius" of Gibbs and/or Saunders to simply put the f'n ball into the hands of the qb. Their combined genius is what we saw through most of the season up to the Eagles game: conservative, predictable, out-of-sync playcalling.

Anyway, I understand how some folks don't want Gibbs to leave, and I understand how other folks think Saunders is more important. What seems obvious to me is that things haven't worked out so well when the two have tried to put their heads together for the offensive strategy. Millions of dollars to a couple of offensive-minded coaches and the best results come when they finally just let the qb (who is awesome) run the show? Call it overcoaching, call it overcomplication, call it whatever, but the scheme Gibbs/Saunders envisioned, and what they stuck w/ through the first half of the season, is a dud and I hope to hell they don't try it again next season.

He needs to come back next year to take us to the promised land. Give him one more year with a nice draft and FA pickups and he will take us to the promised land. Now that we have a QB and everything has changed, hopefully all the doubters will become believers.

I am not real happy with Joe, but I think this is a great thread. I will be more than happy to have him sign another 5 year contract. Unless he says I'm out and I need to go retire again he is and always will be the best man for the job. Joe Gibbs is a legit football general and there are so very few out there.

Kudo Kudo Kudo and get another ring

I am not real happy with Joe, but I think this is a great thread. I will be more than happy to have him sign another 5 year contract. Unless he says I'm out and I need to go retire again he is and always will be the best man for the job.

It's funny that outside of the Warpath there is little belief (based on the evidence) that Gibbs is a big positive force for this team. The truth is that because of the staff structure it's very hard to know who is responsible for what, which is often evident on gameday. That said, I think the structure needs to change significantly for next season. Maybe that means Gibbs retires as I've suggested. Maybe it means Saunders goes instead. I don't really know the answer at this point, but what I do know is that whatever was tried this year was a flop. The only reason we lost the game by 5 pts today instead of 30 is because the ball was put in JC's hands. It doesn't take the "genius" of Gibbs and/or Saunders to simply put the f'n ball into the hands of the qb. Their combined genius is what we saw through most of the season up to the Eagles game: conservative, predictable, out-of-sync playcalling.

Anyway, I understand how some folks don't want Gibbs to leave, and I understand how other folks think Saunders is more important. What seems obvious to me is that things haven't worked out so well when the two have tried to put their heads together for the offensive strategy. Millions of dollars to a couple of offensive-minded coaches and the best results come when they finally just let the qb (who is awesome) run the show? Call it overcoaching, call it overcomplication, call it whatever, but the scheme Gibbs/Saunders envisioned, and what they stuck w/ through the first half of the season, is a dud and I hope to hell they don't try it again next season.

I know this started out as a positive "why we need Gibbs thread" instead of the usual "Gibbs must go" thread that emerges after a loss.

IMO, Gibbs is a positive influence on the team to the extent that he commands player respect and gets the players to believe in what we're doing. Almost any other coach, and our bunch would've mailed it in for the season.

Gibbs has also assembled a coaching staff that couldn't possibly be assembled without his presence. Should Gibbs be gone next year, would Saunders stay? Not sure, unless he was offered the head coaching job. Bugel would almost certainly retire as well. I think Saunders staying on next year is critical to our success, given Campbell's familiarity and comfort executing the offense.

If Saunders staying is dependent upon Gibbs staying, then I'm all for Gibbs staying. Gibbs without Saunders would be useless.

He'll be back.

I really hope your right.

But IMO I do thank that decision will be made depending on how we finish these last 6 games.

I think we are really on to something here the offense is rockin with JC at the helm, if he could and will take away that one or two really bad plays per game. Like today inside 1:40 in the 4th ball on there 19 and a horrible decision throw a pick it looked to me like JC could have took off and if not scored at least got the first, take that interception away. We SHOULD be sitting at 6-4. Another game we SHOULD have won.

Even with the defensive woes.

Back to topic, I really hope Joe rides out the 5 year deal. IMO we ride off to a hell of a finish this season. Next season LIGHTS OUT BALL, and he rides off next season with a SUPER BOWL RING for our beloved REDSKINS!

He needs to come back next year to take us to the promised land. Give him one more year with a nice draft and FA pickups and he will take us to the promised land. Now that we have a QB and everything has changed, hopefully all the doubters will become believers.

I hope he retires. Can someone please explain why you try a 50 yard fg when you have 4th and 1? Have some damn confidence in the players you brought in here to pick up one yard. If I believe we had two 4th and ones and he didn't go for either one.

When you are on the road, against a better team that is going to score you don't play for 3 points. It's just stupid.

As much as I love the guy he needs to hang it up.

Hindsight right? Of course, go for it and don't get the 1st then lose by 2 and he's still an idiot. On the road in a hostile environment is exactly when you don't go on 4th and 1. Not only can too much go wrong but the boost you'd give them by failing is too huge to outweigh the possible positive of picking up the 1st.
On the road in a close game, take any points you think you can get.

I hope he retires. Can someone please explain why you try a 50 yard fg when you have 4th and 1? Have some damn confidence in the players you brought in here to pick up one yard. If I believe we had two 4th and ones and he didn't go for either one.

When you are on the road, against a better team that is going to score you don't play for 3 points. It's just stupid.

I agree - pi$$ poor nutless decision not to go for that 4th and 1 in the second q. Typical of Gibbs 2.0. The missed field goal gave Dallas great field position and set them up for their first points of the evening. Once they tasted blood, they capitalized.

If Gibbs returning meant Saunders returning, and Campbell getting stellar at running this offense, and it kept Greg Williams' head coaching ambitions in check for another year, would you be for it?

Hindsight right? Of course, go for it and don't get the 1st then lose by 2 and he's still an idiot. On the road in a hostile environment is exactly when you don't go on 4th and 1. Not only can too much go wrong but the boost you'd give them by failing is too huge to outweigh the possible positive of picking up the 1st.
On the road in a close game, take any points you think you can get.

Disagree. Of course, Gibbs 2.0 thinks exactly as you've stated.

On the road is where you send a message that you've come to play and challenge the bitches. If this was a 4th and 1 from the Dallas 20 yd line, at least you could reasonably argue that you could bank on Suisham for 3 points.

How's the boost you give them by failing on a 4th and 1 any more than the boost you give them by missing a field goal?