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hooskins 11-18-2007, 08:29 PM Just a thought about ST being out today. Does anyone here really think TO would have scored 4TDs with ST lurking? And without those 4TDs who wins? Maybe its just as simple as that...
I don't TO would score 4, but at the same time how come our D cannot adapt to 1 play and player when given 3 chances?
SouperMeister 11-18-2007, 08:32 PM 1) Not going for it on 4th and 1 and missing that 50 yarder. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I felt we really should have thought about that with a "nothing to lose" attitude.
2)Giving up FOUR long bombs to TO, 3 of them were pretty much the exact same play. I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. I really wouldn't mind Witten or Crayton getting a big TD over the middle, but you can't leave TO that open so many times. This really falls on GW. I am sure with ST back that will be less of an issue, but still it is unacceptable.
Point two really hurts me just because I know GW is better than that. On a whole I am just hurt because I know we could have won the game. My hat is off to JC for an awesome game and for Saunders/Gibbs for growing a pair and letting JC do more in the offense. We should run no-huddle more in beginning of the game.
Also please NO Debbie-downers. I do not mean for this to be a pessimistic thread. No "Gibbs/GW should be fired" "we suck" etc etc. And if you want to mention another point, just back it up. I will negative reputation the hell out of you guys if you ruin this thread by being pessimistic and posting crap :). That is all.I agree with point 1. It was early in the game, and getting that first down and perhaps driving for a 14-0 lead would have made a statement at that point.
Gmanc711 11-18-2007, 08:37 PM Let me add my 2:
Samuels played the worst of the 5 linemen. Overall, they did enough to win but samuels getting beat really cost us.
Campbell was good, Unfortunately he is never good enough in the clutch. If only he had hit moss in the end zone. It seems like every loss there is an open WR that he misses.
We could've pulled this one out :(
Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.
hooskins 11-18-2007, 08:41 PM Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.
Yea same here, but at the same time perhaps our receivers might not have been so open if we left one more back. Basically maybe JC needed more options to find someone open.
wilsowilso 11-18-2007, 08:43 PM Chris Samuels is the absolute last of our worries and I mean last.
mheisig 11-18-2007, 08:45 PM You all DO realize that we had 50% backups in our secondary and were playing against one of THE premier wide receivers in the modern era of football?
I hate TO with all my heart and would love nothing more than to see him get drilled into next Tuesday coming across the field, but you can't argue with the guys stats and career. He's climbing the list of all-time TD and his physical skills are tops NFL history.
We had one decent (usually) starting CB in Springs, a backup CB in Smoot, a rookie safety in Landry who's strength isn't coverage and a backup safety in Prioleau.
Yes, they got lit up by Romo and TO. It's pretty damn amazing that it wasn't worse, all things considered.
You take a hodge-podge, banged-up, cobbled-together secondary and ask them to blanket one of the top 5 WRs in the game and I think we got what is to be expected. No amount of scheming is going to make up for just not having the talent to shut TO down.
Ocliw 11-18-2007, 08:50 PM 1) Not going for it on 4th and 1 and missing that 50 yarder. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I felt we really should have thought about that with a "nothing to lose" attitude.
2)Giving up FOUR long bombs to TO, 3 of them were pretty much the exact same play. I realize ST wasn't there and all, but GW is a smart man and our players are decent enough to not get beat by the same player the same way 3 times. I really wouldn't mind Witten or Crayton getting a big TD over the middle, but you can't leave TO that open so many times. This really falls on GW. I am sure with ST back that will be less of an issue, but still it is unacceptable.
Point two really hurts me just because I know GW is better than that. On a whole I am just hurt because I know we could have won the game. My hat is off to JC for an awesome game and for Saunders/Gibbs for growing a pair and letting JC do more in the offense. We should run no-huddle more in beginning of the game.
Also please NO Debbie-downers. I do not mean for this to be a pessimistic thread. No "Gibbs/GW should be fired" "we suck" etc etc. And if you want to mention another point, just back it up. I will negative reputation the hell out of you guys if you ruin this thread by being pessimistic and posting crap :). That is all.
Yeah,not even thinking twice about going for it on 4th and 1 is kinda disturbing.
Beemnseven 11-18-2007, 08:53 PM Also, with under 2:00 in the 4th quarter, down in the redzone, I felt that there was a bit of unnecessary urgency. I thought for sure they would have given the ball to Portis once or twice when they got near the 10 yard line.
hooskins 11-18-2007, 08:54 PM You all DO realize that we had 50% backups in our secondary and were playing against one of THE premier wide receivers in the modern era of football?
I hate TO with all my heart and would love nothing more than to see him get drilled into next Tuesday coming across the field, but you can't argue with the guys stats and career. He's climbing the list of all-time TD and his physical skills are tops NFL history.
We had one decent (usually) starting CB in Springs, a backup CB in Smoot, a rookie safety in Landry who's strength isn't coverage and a backup safety in Prioleau.
Yes, they got lit up by Romo and TO. It's pretty damn amazing that it wasn't worse, all things considered.
You take a hodge-podge, banged-up, cobbled-together secondary and ask them to blanket one of the top 5 WRs in the game and I think we got what is to be expected. No amount of scheming is going to make up for just not having the talent to shut TO down.
You honestly thought prior to the game, based on our talent, that TO would score 4 TDs(all long bombs)? And three of those being nearly the same exact play? Also when the emphasis from GW was to minimize his production?
I suspect the answer is no.
TheMalcolmConnection 11-18-2007, 09:03 PM Agree about Samuels, but they need to give him more help than that, in my opinion. D. Ware is way too good for that.
For me dude, I'd rather take a sack or two and have the offense opened up like it is. The offense looks amazing today. Two turnovers in the red zone? We could easily have had 35 points.
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