Who's The Best Draft Pick In The Gibbs 2.0 Era

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GMScud
11-14-2007, 11:15 PM
Cooley looks to have been a great trade up, even though we gave up a lot to get him. I am inclined to agree with Schneed on Montgomery though. The best teams are able to find legit starters on the second day of the draft and we found two pretty solid DLmen that year in I believe the fifth and sixth.

It's hard to argue against Cooley. Since he came into the league, only Antonio Gates has caught more TDs from the TE position. That's pretty impressive.

IMO it's Taylor and Cooley as 1A and 1B, and it's a pick 'em for which one is A or B.

Taylor is a game changing force, but think of where we'd be without Cooley's red zone hands.

chrisl4064
11-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Taylor, should be the end of discussion....

BleedBurgundy
11-15-2007, 08:01 AM
Man, the rich getting richer. I wonder who in the world they'd take. Honestly, I could see them taking the top QB so that when Brady (finally) retires, they'll have someone waiting in the wings.

They'll probably trade down, trade down again, end up with a late round first, 4 2nd round picks and some poor team's 1st again next year. Later that afternoon, Belichick will trade some kid some "magic beans" for his lunch.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-15-2007, 04:40 PM
There is a reason the 'busts' all seem to cluster in the 1st 10 picks, the teams drafting them are bad. Its hard to not look like a bust when the team is terrible.

Name some good teams and I'll show you some 1st round busts.

70Chip
11-15-2007, 04:40 PM
I thought picking Taylor over Winslow and then getting Cooley in the third round was super smart.

Redskin334
11-15-2007, 05:03 PM
Chris Cooley would be mine Taylor was a no brainer pick for me he is a special kid you could see that in him in college. Cooley was pretty much a no name pick that has blossom into a pro bowl cailber player.

hurrykaine
11-15-2007, 05:54 PM
In order:

Cooley
Taylor
Landry (even though he's only played 9 games)
Golston/Montgomery
Macintosh

Overwhelmingly, the picks that have worked out have been on defense, with the offensive picks (O-linemen, backs) being largely useless. Not sure whom to credit and whom to blame for that.

squrrelco3
11-16-2007, 11:47 AM
Landry (even though he's only played 9 games)

If he continues to perform like he has I would agree with you, especially when you consider that the entire world howled like a stuck pig when Gibbs made this pick instead of trading down. It was a gutsy call and so far it seems to be paying off.

GTripp0012
11-16-2007, 12:54 PM
In order:

Cooley
Taylor
Landry (even though he's only played 9 games)
Golston/Montgomery
Macintosh

Overwhelmingly, the picks that have worked out have been on defense, with the offensive picks (O-linemen, backs) being largely useless. Not sure whom to credit and whom to blame for that.The only offensive players we drafted in the first 4 rounds of any Gibbs draft were:

1) Cooley
2) Campbell

Hard to blame anything for that except the lack of picks.

steveo395
11-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Just to pile on - Let's look at just the top 10 picks from 2005 (2006 still kind of early to call anyone a bust) -

1 Alex Smith San Francisco 49ers BUST
2 Ronnie Brown Miami Dolphins
3 Braylon Edwards Cleveland Browns
4 Cedric Benson Chicago Bears BUST
5 Cadillac Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6 Pacman Jones Tennessee Titans BUST
7 Troy Williamson Minnesota Vikings BUST
8 Antrel Rolle Arizona Cardinals BUST
9 Carlos Rogers Washington Redskins
10 Mike Williams Detroit Lions BUST

You might dispute a couple of those, but even if you take just the certifiables (Smith, Benson, Williamson, M. Williams) - that's a 40% failure rate in the TOP TEN. Number 1 picks are no gimmes - and while I agree that depth is built by finding serviceable players in later rounds, successful teams find successful number 1's.

In one of my preseason mags they broke down the league wide "success" rate of picks made after round 1 and it was pretty low. We are talking players still playing for the team that drafted them more than 3 years after the draft. It was less than 20%.

pacman jones is no way a bust. he may have serious character issues, but the guy can play. so as long as when he comes back he stays out of trouble he will be a pro bowler easy

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