The main reason the Skins lost to the Eagles?

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GTripp0012
11-12-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't think you can rely on defense to win games every week. The offense needs to win games when given the chance. The offense had the chance to win the game this week and just didn't do it.Ugh.

But you have to rely on both units to pull their weight. The offense missed pefection by a little bit yesterday down in the red zone twice, but the defense was awful all day.

I think you have to rely on your defense to not be total and utter crap every week, and in the event that it is, then you have to call a spade a spade, not make excuses for it, and move on.

irish
11-12-2007, 01:35 PM
For anyone that still does not understand why I gave the Skins D a C grade last week please rewatch yesterday's game.

SouperMeister
11-12-2007, 01:39 PM
All three played a factor, but I would argue that the penalties were the biggest reason. Penalties extended Philly's opening TD drive, and gave them new life right before the bomb to Reggie Brown for another TD. And all that before Cooley's gaffe - the biggest mistake of the game. You just can't false start inside the 10 yard line at home, yet the Skins manage to make mistakes like that repeatedly. That IS NOT coaching. Coaches had a perfect call before Cooley jumped. So we blame the playcalling for that? My only beef with Gibbs/Saunders was the draw on 3rd and 7. For the rest of this terrible loss, I put it squarely on the players making stupid penalties at crucial moments.

warriorzpath
11-12-2007, 01:46 PM
Ugh.

But you have to rely on both units to pull their weight. The offense missed pefection by a little bit yesterday down in the red zone twice, but the defense was awful all day.

I think you have to rely on your defense to not be total and utter crap every week, and in the event that it is, then you have to call a spade a spade, not make excuses for it, and move on.

The defense hasn't played like crap every week. The redskins defense has probably been one of the top defenses this year. Look at the entire league, for some reason (maybe - rules, offensive trends, whatever) there seems to have been more games dominated by offenses than by defenses compared to past seasons.

The defense have pulled their weight this season and won a few games on their own. The offense needs to do the same regardless of how the defense is playing. And I think the offense is far from perfect, especially at the end of games - when they tend to fall apart. I am always scared when the redskins are down (even by only one) at around 6 minutes to go- and it's not because of the defense.

GTripp0012
11-12-2007, 01:50 PM
The defense hasn't played like crap every week. The redskins defense has probably been one of the top defenses this year. Look at the entire league, for some reason (maybe - rules, offensive trends, whatever) there seems to have been more games dominated by offenses than by defenses compared to past seasons.

The defense have pulled their weight this season and won a few games on their own. The offense needs to do the same regardless of how the defense is playing. And I think the offense is far from perfect, especially at the end of games - when they tend to fall apart. I am always scared when the redskins are down (even by only one) at around 6 minutes to go- and it's not because of the defense.The defense was pulling it's weight and we were winning.

The offense has pulled it's weight the last two games and we are losing. Why? Because the defense has fallen to well below average.

And yes, the passing games have dominated this season. Our's has not, and that is a problem. But on Sunday, it's hard to blame the offense for anything considering their overall performance.

Either credit the Eagles offense, or blame the Redskins defense, but those are the units that changed this game, not the Eagles defense or Redskins offense.

warriorzpath
11-12-2007, 01:51 PM
And to me, it's harder to win games defensively (especially at the end of games) rather than winning it by the offense. You just have more control over the score on offense.

warriorzpath
11-12-2007, 01:54 PM
I understand the defense did not play well yesterday, but bottomline - the offense had a chance to win the game and just didn't.

For a good confident offensive team, that's all you can ask for. The offense just isn't good or confident enough right now.

Texanskin
11-12-2007, 01:55 PM
we have NO F$$%^$# Heart!!!!
The Patriots showed us how to do it with a lead and we cant mimick that attitude.
We have had a lead in almost EVERY game at the half. NO KILLER INSTINCT!!!!

GTripp0012
11-12-2007, 02:00 PM
And to me, it's harder to win games defensively (especially at the end of games) rather than winning it by the offense. You just have more control over the score on offense.That's definitely true, but we put up 25 points on only 8 drives yesterday.

Point is, if a team loses a shootout, you still have to look at the defense for not stopping the other offense. Obviously in a loss, neither unit was perfect, but if one is close, and one is nowhere near close, which unit needs to be corrected first?

warriorzpath
11-12-2007, 02:08 PM
That's definitely true, but we put up 25 points on only 8 drives yesterday.

Point is, if a team loses a shootout, you still have to look at the defense for not stopping the other offense. Obviously in a loss, neither unit was perfect, but if one is close, and one is nowhere near close, which unit needs to be corrected first?

I don't disagree that the defense didn't play well yesterday, but at some point, the offense needs to win the game without the luxury of the defense playing lights out. Even with the defense making several mistakes, they managed at least one big play (forced fumble) and kept the game within range.

Just look at the eyes of the offensive players at the end of the game - does that look like fire, hunger, and confidence in their eyes? The only player that may have that look is Portis right now.

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