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after 2 replays was easy enuff to see he did indeed catch the ball, but u know, the refs blow another game for us, cuz there went the momentum and we were driving for at least a field goal... it's bullshit..
this win was bullshit... i love how jason looked but still this whole game was just officiated poor, like on westbrook td landry was obviously helf jersey IN HANDS AN ALL VISIBLE... FUCKIN BULLSHIT.... can't wait till next week our team will be pissed.
& to answer other threads... i think maybe Joe gibbs should step down..
not sure about replacement but... i unno... he's not the same loud mean vocal coach he was when he was younger.... we need more inspiration.. i unno.... befuttling loss...
Pocket$ $traight 11-11-2007, 09:38 PM Well, who has the final say on challenges????
I guess it was too important to challenge the Betts fumble...
SouperMeister 11-11-2007, 09:40 PM Personally, I didn't think it was a catch, despite a tremendous throw by Campbell. It's a moot point when we're out of timeouts to call for a challenge because our coach wastes a timeout earlier trying to decide whether to kick a field goal.
JWsleep 11-11-2007, 09:48 PM For what it's worth, he didn't call TO to think about kicking. He was going to kick once we didn't get the first down. But the personnel were not on the field, and the play clock ran down. Could have taken a penalty, I guess. But that's not seen as a great idea, usually, and Shuish did miss a PAT.
The other TOs were by JC and on a reasonable challenge of the Betts fumble. That was not the difference maker today, IMO, and I'm surprised at the play it's getting.
Cooley's false start. Westbrook's romping on our Taylor-less secondary. And the pathetic goal line series. That was why we lost. It would have been nice to have the TOs, don't get me wrong. But lots more went wrong than that.
GMScud 11-11-2007, 10:10 PM For what it's worth, he didn't call TO to think about kicking. He was going to kick once we didn't get the first down. But the personnel were not on the field, and the play clock ran down. Could have taken a penalty, I guess. But that's not seen as a great idea, usually, and Shuish did miss a PAT.
The other TOs were by JC and on a reasonable challenge of the Betts fumble. That was not the difference maker today, IMO, and I'm surprised at the play it's getting.
Cooley's false start. Westbrook's romping on our Taylor-less secondary. And the pathetic goal line series. That was why we lost. It would have been nice to have the TOs, don't get me wrong. But lots more went wrong than that.
He should never have needed to call a TO to think about kicking. We're down by the goal line, it's 3rd and 1, Gibbs/Saunders need to think 1 play ahead and know what you're gonna do if they don't get the 1st down. We're paying them $7M combined a year and they need that much time to run a routine FG? Waste a TO then kick anyway?? Joke.
EternalEnigma21 11-11-2007, 10:24 PM it looked like a catch on the replay but it was pretty close... we just had no timeouts left due to the only thing proven consistent about this team... bad clock management.
skinsguy 11-11-2007, 10:26 PM The fan inside of me says it was a catch, but realistically speaking, if we were able to challenge that call (since it was called incomplete) it probably would've been too close to be overturned.
LaRon + Sean = Hell 4 U 11-11-2007, 10:37 PM He should never have needed to call a TO to think about kicking. We're down by the goal line, it's 3rd and 1, Gibbs/Saunders need to think 1 play ahead and know what you're gonna do if they don't get the 1st down. We're paying them $7M combined a year and they need that much time to run a routine FG? Waste a TO then kick anyway?? Joke.
That is exactly why he needs to step down if you call the TO find a play to get the first don't call it then kick it. It was a catch but that dumb TO is the reason why we couldn't challenge it.
Pocket$ $traight 11-11-2007, 10:42 PM He should never have needed to call a TO to think about kicking. We're down by the goal line, it's 3rd and 1, Gibbs/Saunders need to think 1 play ahead and know what you're gonna do if they don't get the 1st down. We're paying them $7M combined a year and they need that much time to run a routine FG? Waste a TO then kick anyway?? Joke.
That had Gibbs signature meddling all over it. I literally wanted to bang my head aganst the railing on that one. The best was that they called the TO almost immediately. It wasn't like they were running out of time. That may have been one of the worst calls that I have ever seen (or #7 on this year's clock management debacles).
SouperMeister 11-11-2007, 10:55 PM That had Gibbs signature meddling all over it. I literally wanted to bang my head aganst the railing on that one. The best was that they called the TO almost immediately. It wasn't like they were running out of time. That may have been one of the worst calls that I have ever seen (or #7 on this year's clock management debacles).The worst part of that timeout was that it was so unnecessary. First the coaches took too much time deciding to get the FG team out there, then they waste the timeout instead of taking a delay of game. Not much difference between kicking a 28 yard FG vs. a 23 yard FG. Just a botch job by the coaches all the way around.
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