If Gibbs Goes, Who coaches next year?

I don't see how anyone who's been paying attention to the NFL for the last 20 years could get excited by the prospect of Bill Cowher.


are you joking?? The guy had to Steelers in playoffs every year, competative every year. He bring stability, success, a winning formula, superbowl in the modern era of the NFL. I dont see how anyone who has watched football over the last 20 years wouldn't have some sort of excitement if he was a candidate to be your teams head coach.

Of all the stupid, shallow ideas, this one takes the cake. This team was nearly destroyed by Dan Snyder, and the only reason we have hope for the future is Joe Gibbs' leadership. It takes time to get the mess Coach Gibbs was handed into the team everyone wants. The building blocks are in place, but we need to get to a point where Jason Campbell has some more experience and we can get free of the injury bug.

Snyder changed coaches all the time and the people who want Coach Gibbs to be fired are just as faulty as Snyder was before he brought Joe back.

If Coach Gibbs is not here as the CEO/Coach, we are in trouble. I give Snyder credit for bringing Coach Gibbs back - Snyder knew that he would be run out of town before long if he didn't do something dramatic and let go of the reins.

I hope that Coach Gibbs will stay beyond his current contract, get the team into top shape, and then stay on as General Manager.

I think that as soon as next year we could contend for the Super Bowl title, if we have a reasonable injury picture, and Campbell continues to develop.

PATIENCE is what is needed. Any decisions based on short sighted impatience are only going to lead to misery for Redskins fans.


Lets bring you into todays NFL. Gibbs has been here 4 years. lets see 5-11, 10-6, 5-11 and now 5-4. same stupid stuff happens today, that happened 4 years ago. in 4 years there should be a change in terms of wins and losses, a gradual increase in production. With the payroll , the talent, the unlimited resourses of money this team should not be fighting year in and year out to finish .500. In todays NFL you have to win and win now. If you rebuild, then the 3rd year of that rebuilding you should be competing and going to the playoffs. We are stuck in neutral every damn year. Plus in todays NFL you have about a 4 year stretch with the current roster. This is why the draft and talent scouts are so important. so when you have to dump players (marcus washington, griffin, portis, moss) in the next year, we have talent that can step in and never miss a beat. we are far from that!!

lets go back a few years, Joe Gibbs did not build his teams in the 80's and 90's. He coached the talent drafted for him, and brought in by Casserly and Bethard. I do not want Joe to become the Talent evaluator for our organization.
Look, Joe has to go brother. we are in no better shape now than we were 4 years ago, hell 6 years ago for that fact. I dont want to hear about how we have this guy or that guy. fact is no matter who we have here right now, we are not winning. we didn't win with Norv, Marty (8-8), Spurrier and we aren't winning with Joe.

Good points from both of you. My sense is that if Dan Snyder had the power to dismiss assistant coaches, Williams would have been gone last year, and Saunders would have been shown the door at some point over the last few games. Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin for these two guys. I'd bet he's chomping at the bit to take the axe to someone.

But he won't dare touch Gibbs.

Not trying to be a smartass, but how do you know "Snyder's patience has no doubt worn thin...?" Have there been public statements or interviews that would confirm this statement? Also, all the talk about Cowher possibly coming to D.C. has not addressed the very real possibility of him going somewhere else like Charlotte. They suck more than we do and they may be ready to pull the trigger for a new coach after this season. Didn't Cowher purchase property in N.C. somewhere anyway?

IMO, yesterday is the classic example of why Danny wont keep GW on as head coach.

I dont really care who our next coach is, just as long as they are aggressive. I mean look at some of the younger coaches and how aggressive they are compared to the older close to the chest coaches. Now I am not saying that we need a coach to come in and show his cards right off the bat but yesterday's game showed what can happen when your offense is aggressive. If we had an aggressive offense with our D that we used to have at the begining of the year our record could be alot better...

I think this is a non-issue anyway. Gibbs will be back for year 5 of his contract.Should he be?

And I'm not talking about whether or not the Redskins would be better with or without him. That's a dumb debate that can not ever be based in reason because you can't really attribute any specific performance directly to the coaches.

I'm simply saying should Gibbs have to put up with this much disgrace from his fan base every time he loses. Should he put himself through this mess all over again? .500 obviously isn't good enough to satisfy our fans, and if Gibbs can't satisfy the fans, why should he bless us with his leadership?

I'm starting to think that it might be in his best personal interest to step down at the end of the year. He's not going to alter any attitudes in his 5th year that he was unable to alter in 4 years.

Should he be?

And I'm not talking about whether or not the Redskins would be better with or without him. That's a dumb debate that can not ever be based in reason because you can't really attribute any specific performance directly to the coaches.

I'm simply saying should Gibbs have to put up with this much disgrace from his fan base every time he loses. Should he put himself through this mess all over again? .500 obviously isn't good enough to satisfy our fans, and if Gibbs can't satisfy the fans, why should he bless us with his leadership?

I'm starting to think that it might be in his best personal interest to step down at the end of the year. He's not going to alter any attitudes in his 5th year that he was unable to alter in 4 years.

Precisely why I said this: http://www.redskinswarpath.com/376979-post46.html

I dont really care who our next coach is, just as long as they are aggressive. I mean look at some of the younger coaches and how aggressive they are compared to the older close to the chest coaches. Now I am not saying that we need a coach to come in and show his cards right off the bat but yesterday's game showed what can happen when your offense is aggressive. If we had an aggressive offense with our D that we used to have at the begining of the year our record could be alot better...I love how Jason Garrett calls a bold offensive game, getting all of his receivers and 2 running backs involved. I thought that's what we were getting with Saunders, yet I would argue that yesterday's offensive game plan was the first the resembled anything Saunders cooked up in Kansas City. I'd like to see a lot more of that moving forward.

Precisely why I said this: http://www.redskinswarpath.com/376979-post46.htmlActually, I was just applying your MB argument from last year to Gibbs.

Since last year, they were sharing the blame that belongs on the defensive players, and this year Gibbs is just getting all of it.

I think it's high time to take a critical approach to Gregg Williams. One of the reasons he's be so successful in the past is that he does it differently than all other coordinators. He doesn't follow the trends.

But if he's incapable of producing a top 3/4 defense without elite defensive talent, then we simply can't move foward with him. Injuries are too much a part of the game to have a total collapse when they happen every year.

Some defensive dropoff is to be expected with Rogers out, Washington out, and Griffin banged up. But the scheme can't fall from No. 2 all the way to No. 30 just because one guy is out for the year and two others are dinged up. If our coordinator is to arrogant to adjust, we have to get someone else who can.

But if he's incapable of producing a top 3/4 defense without elite defensive talent, then we simply can't move foward with him. Injuries are too much a part of the game to have a total collapse when they happen every year.

Some defensive dropoff is to be expected with Rogers out, Washington out, and Griffin banged up. But the scheme can't fall from No. 2 all the way to No. 30 just because one guy is out for the year and two others are dinged up. If our coordinator is to arrogant to adjust, we have to get someone else who can.

Agreed. I actually gave Williams props earlier in the season, because he seemingly found away to take away the big plays from big play teams(excluding the Pats). But as the season has progressed, he is still very cut and dry with his defensive scheme. Don't blitz Brady at all, and let him pick you apart all day, then come back the next week and blitz Clemens 30 times when he's much better at escaping the blitz than Brady... There's no happy medium.

And the dropoff that occurs when the starters are out is ridiculous. When Taylor left the game yesterday, the defense was immediately gashed for two 40+ yard plays. WTF is that?