The sky is falling - Dr. Z will vote for Monk

As I read it he was saying he was voting for those guys to be put on the list of 15 finalists, I'm not sure that guarantees his vote for induction. I'm just saying, he ticks off quite a list of names on there and what, only six or seven can possibly get in right?

Yes. You're right. At the same time, I think when it comes down to the final vote, he is not going to stand in the way this time and won't vote him down. Perhaps with Lenny S. actively working to get Monk in and King's and Z's obstructionism gone, Art might just get enough votes to get in.

anyone know Chris Carters career stats? they cant be anywhere close to Monks. and ill bet Gary Clark's are at least as good. and what about that so called drug problem....

anyone know Chris Carters career stats? they cant be anywhere close to Monks. and ill bet Gary Clark's are at least as good. and what about that so called drug problem....

His numbers are better than monks:
Cris Carter statistics - pro-football-reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CartCr00.htm)

anyone know Chris Carters career stats? they cant be anywhere close to Monks. and ill bet Gary Clark's are at least as good. and what about that so called drug problem....

Actually, doing a direct comparison, Carter blows Monk out the water in receptions, yards and nearly doubles him in TD's. However, Monk blows Carter out of the water with super Bowl rings, which seemed to be good nough for Lynn Swann.

You know, 6 months ago I would have had no arguement with Carter going to the hall. I always enjoyed his style of play and think he would have fit in. But I can't look past the point that he felt his own enshrinement was so important as to denigrate one of the all time class players in the NFL. To my mind, he can wait 1or 2 years and learn some humility.

WOW!! ... I hope the 2 of them, meaning Monk and Green, Both make it this year. If so, Canton HERE I COME!!! HAIL!!

WOW!! ... I hope the 2 of them, meaning Monk and Green, Both make it this year. If so, Canton HERE I COME!!! HAIL!!

I think we may have to charter a bus if this happens. Very exciting to think of this. How cool would it be if they inducted each other?

How cool would it be if Monk finally does get elected and then tells them all to shove it right up their asses? Now, that would never happen because Art was/is a class act, but it certainly would be funny.

I hope they both make it in as well. It would be awesome to see two Skins going in at the same time!

Rest assured that if Darrell Green makes it in and Art doesn't, Art will be mentioned. Someone is going to have to shame the voters into doing the right thing.

Actually, doing a direct comparison, Carter blows Monk out the water in receptions, yards and nearly doubles him in TD's. However, Monk blows Carter out of the water with super Bowl rings, which seemed to be good nough for Lynn Swann.
I hear the numbers comparrisons from people all the time and it irritates the crap out of me. Football does not have the same rules from year to year and it's impossible to compare players. Would you rather have Bart Starr or Brad Johnson? Johnson has better numbers. When Monk caught 106 passes it was unheard of, now someone catches over a 100 every year. Are wr's so much better today? Absolutely not but today if you breathe on a wr it is penalty. Think how many more passes Monk could have gotten if he played under the Micheal Irvin push off rules? Compare players under the guidelines of when they played. Monk retired as the all-time receptions leader. He didn't make many pro bowls, but neither did Riggins. It's 3rd and 6. Who, of all-time, do you throw to?