Bill Cowher!!

I think it's fair to say that the negatives personnel moves outweigh the positives. Just look at the losing record so far that pretty much answers it.

I'll give him Cooley (though he was a 2 for 1), Fletcher, Suisham, some others.

But the bad ones really take him down quite a bit. Arch, TJ Duckett, Brandon Lloyd... those really hurt.

I'd really beg to differ there.

Outside of AA, Lloyd, and Duckett, what other glaringly bad mistakes were there?

So the list could start with no more Cowher threads. I guess we could add no more patrick Ramsey or LaVar Arrington threads. Thats 3. What else?

Now this topic could be a new thread! A "Things that shouldn't be threads" thread. I like it.

I'd really beg to differ there.

Outside of AA, Lloyd, and Duckett, what other glaringly bad mistakes were there?

Matty, Matty, Matty, don't you remember when he drafted Ryan Leaf? That was the same year that we also picked up Pacman Jones and KiJana Carter.

My GOD you guys seem willing to give him a pass on EVERYTHING. You need to take the blinders off and see him for the piss poor evaluator of talent that he truly is...


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I think the theory is that going out and hiring a coach who has nothing to prove versus hiring someone who is hungry and is eager to prove himself can make a big difference. When Gibbs was first hired by Beathard/JKC, he was the latter.

Problem is, Snyder doesn't have the patience for young guys. He's always preferred the people who have previously given good results.

It's not like Spurrier had done anything at the NFL level when he was hired

I think the theory is that going out and hiring a coach who has nothing to prove versus hiring someone who is hungry and is eager to prove himself can make a big difference. When Gibbs was first hired by Beathard/JKC, he was the latter.

Problem is, Snyder doesn't have the patience for young guys. He's always preferred the people who have previously given good results.

And that is completely untrue, because Snyder hasn't hired any young guys as a head coach for this team. He has hired Marty Schottenheimer (old guy), Steve Spurrier (not as old but not young nor proven in the NFL,) and Joe Gibbs (old guy.) Norv Turner had already been in Washington for about seven seasons and produced one good season for us. As for Steve Spurrier, he resigned after two seasons. The only guy (and I feel Turner doesn't count at this point,) that Snyder didn't have the patience for was Marty Schottenheimer.

Secondly, who's to say that Gibbs isn't hungry to win now? Just because he has been at the top of the NFL in the past, doesn't mean he can't ever have the fire to coach this team back to the top. If JG didn't have that fire and determination, he would've never gotten back into coaching. Please don't say, "it was all because of the money." Please, Joe Gibbs could've sat back with his Nascar team and made enough money for ten lifetimes.

Let's not forget the moves that we had the opportunity to make but didn't-Adalius Thomas, Courtney Brown, Simeon Rice, Antonio Bryant, among others.

And yes I realize there are potentially positive moves we didn't make either.

I can understand the desire to hire a young guy and let him do his thing for the next 10 years. But at the same time you have to consider all qualified candidates regardless of age. If someone with the resume of a Bill Cowher is sitting out there when the Skins are looking for a new head coach, I don't know how you can pass him up simply because he's not a young guy.

I don't get it. What is the appeal of having a young head coach? For every Gruden, there's a Linehan. I think it's alot better to have a proven presence at head coach. It makes it that much easier for the players to respect him and buy into his system. Energy and enthusiasm only get you so far, you've got to have the knowledge and experience to be a great head coach, with a few exceptions.

Let's not forget the moves that we had the opportunity to make but didn't-Adalius Thomas, Courtney Brown, Simeon Rice, Antonio Bryant, among others.

And yes I realize there are potentially positive moves we didn't make either.

Also in this category - Marcus Washington & Cornelius Griffin rather than Jevon Kearse. Bet the eagles would make that trade in heartbeat.

I don't get it. What is the appeal of having a young head coach? For every Gruden, there's a Linehan. I think it's alot better to have a proven presence at head coach. It makes it that much easier for the players to respect him and buy into his system. Energy and enthusiasm only get you so far, you've got to have the knowledge and experience to be a great head coach, with a few exceptions.


It's the "grass is greener" mentality. We have to draft like the 90's Cowboys team, have a young coach like Pittsburgh or Tampa Bay, and have an explosive offense like Indy or New England.