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I came away really impressed with Clemens. I think he's going to be a good QB. He seems to have good poise and that "it" factor.
But I also think it's clear that the Jets' problems aren't at the QB position.
over the mountain 11-05-2007, 11:37 AM Good teams win, even when they don't play well. That is a .................good thing
exactly . . . good teams find ways to win games when things arent going their way against inferior opponents. (i hate saying this, but look at the cowboys-bills game; bills had everything going their way but still lost)
matty - i normally agree with you but i came away with the impression that clemens doesnt have the "it" factor . . while he scrambles well (on some of those runs for 1st and on the touchdown when he was flushed out of the pocket and hit that FB for his 1st nfl td) i wasnt impressed with his accuracy or his ability to check down but as the commentators noted he does move around in the pocket well to avoid pressure while keeping his eyes down field much like our JC.
chrisl4064 11-05-2007, 11:40 AM i am happy, but we still have a lot to do just in our division
firstdown 11-05-2007, 11:58 AM We let them get up on us by 14 points and our team did not drop their heads and showed the will to go get the win. Most people have said it was an ugly win but I think its the opposite as we took their best shots and then came back to win the game. The only big let down was not getting in for a few of those TDs when we had the chances.
The bottom line for me is this.
It goes in the "W" column. We NEEDED it! If I put all the Neg's and Pos's in perspective, we have much work to do, as many things appear broke. I cannot cover all the many problems that we have at this time.
However,......and BIG however, we came back from a substancial deficit (albeit to a basd team), and delivered a Win.
We live to fight another day "still with a winning record" and buy some more time to tune up our team to Hopefully perform at a higher level.
Dlyne8r 11-05-2007, 01:02 PM Yes, be happy! After all, Patrick Ramsey is no longer a Redskins QB.
We let them get up on us by 14 points and our team did not drop their heads and showed the will to go get the win. Most people have said it was an ugly win but I think its the opposite as we took their best shots and then came back to win the game. The only big let down was not getting in for a few of those TDs when we had the chances.
Getting down early and considering the debacle of last week this team could have easily mailed it in. But they kept chipping away and fought back. I definitely think we need to give them some credit for that.
freddyg12 11-05-2007, 02:28 PM 1.) We won, nuff said
2) We could be seeing the beginning of an improved offense. JC missed a couple throws he should hit, but our line did its job. Hopefully we see both progress in the coming weeks.
BringBackJoeT 11-05-2007, 03:00 PM Of course we're all happy with the win, and indeed, style points count for zilch in the NFL. But to the extent that the sentiment in this thread is that a win alone should end the discussion, I don't think that's fair. Look, what is every sports fan hoping for each year? A championship, no doubt. But even new Yankee owner Hank S. admitted last week that to expect it each and every year is nuts. So, knowing this, the legitimate hope each year is that your team will make the playoffs, and/or beat its rivals. But right below this hope is that your team won't be humiliated, which is exactly what happened last weekend. That 52-7 loss wasn't just any loss, it was the 3rd worst in franchise history. Sure, it was to a team that might actually go 16-0, but no opponent of that team has lost by that many points. So, why is this relevant to a potential discussion of yesterday's performance? Because of what yesterday's performance might say about the possibility of another humiliating loss this season. We couldn't get into the end zone against a 1-7 team with one of the worst defenses in football until the 4th quarter. The Skins needed overtime to beat this team, much like they needed overtime to beat the 0-8 Dolphins. It was just the same type of victory they had experienced over the Dolphins, and the Eagles, and the Cardinals, the type that ultimately should have foreshadowed the absolute blowout the team suffered when it faced one of the elite teams in the league. The victory over the Lions? Looking more and more like an anomoly with each passing week. The fact is that what so many of us were hoping for was a performance by this team that would convince us that, though we may not be nearly as good as the best team in the NFL, we're not as pathetic as we looked against them when we played them. What did we get? A victory no doubt, but the same type of victory that leaves one thinking that this is a team setting itself up to being horribly exposed again. And that is exactly what fans ought to reasonably dread--having their team BLOWN OUT! If we think that the team can reasonably expect to gain 240 yards on the ground against the Cowboys, or the Bucs, or even the Giants, well then fine. But my guess is that these teams might do just a wee better job on the D-line, which means that the Skins might actually have to throw the ball a couple of times. How much more faith in the passing game did we develop after yesterday's loss?
Again, I'm happier being 5-3 than 4-4, or worse. But I didn't turn off the tv yesterday being that much more confident than I was after last week's game that this team won't get its ass KICKED when they play Dallas in Dallas in two weeks. Hope I'm dead f-ing wrong.
skinsfan242 11-05-2007, 04:16 PM While somethings you say make a good point. Like a win is a win, there are no style points etc...
You have to like the fact that we came back from 14 down. Alot of teams could have been like here we go again after getting blown out the week before. We were able to run right through the middle all game. Why pass if you don't have too?
We took what they gave us and when it worked we kept doing it and they didn't stop it. The NFL is about execution and the whole team believing in what you are doing. So if you can't get excitied about a team who has won as many games as the experts said we would all year by week 8, you should not be a fan.
You have to like the fact that our line is actually starting to look like a NFL line. Our RB is back to being someone we can count on. The fact that we have a QB who can throw deep and across the middle. He is not the best QB in the world but he is a good QB who is going to get better and better.
As for our losses they came to teams who are 9-0, 7-1, and 6-2. Two of the games we should have won.
I don't know how a 5-3 team beating a 6-2 is anomoly (sp) at all.
While the Jets have lost a bunch of games, they are in every game to the end, they can't finish and we have been able too for the most part.
This is not about the fact that we ran alot, we were delivering the shots, we were controlling the game, we had their receivers dropping passes, looking over thier sholders, we bullied there defense. We dictated almost everything, we started off slow and asserted our will to win.
If you think phyisical football doesn't work you don't know football. We can be more physical then the teams on our schedule. We can run at teams and try to connect on PA. It is all about the mindset that we are going to hit you and make you fold. I saw that on Sunday it doesn't matter who you play this is the NFL.
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