SmootSmack
11-05-2007, 03:54 PM
You have to look past intended passes toward Lloyd to determine whether he's being "ignored" or not. There is so much more to consider
-What is his attitude when plays aren't called for him
-Why aren't more throws coming his way, is he not running the right route?
-What is he doing in practice
-What about film sessions
-Why is he skipping meetings
-How is he treating his teammates, coaches, and the staff at Redskins Park
By the way, I keep hearing the 49ers really screwed us over. Maybe so, but it's not like the 49ers did great things with the Lloyd trade. They used the money they saved by letting Lloyd go on WR Antonio Bryant (who is out of the league, substance abuse if I remember right). They used their 3rd round pick in 2006 on WR Brandon Williams...who now plays for the Rams. They used their 4th round pick in 2007 on LB Jay Moore...who won't play at all this season (injured reserve)
Just thought I'd send out a little reminder that other teams make poor executive decisions as well.
Good point. I was going to look up what the 49ers did with those picks because ultimately that's how the trade should be graded, and considering the 49ers didn't do much with those picks I don't see how anyone can say they got the better end of the deal. The deal looks like a dud on both ends.
Campbell17
11-05-2007, 04:31 PM
Is Brandon Lloyd the biggest bust (not in a good way) of Gibbs II?
No, I'd have to say that it was Archuleta, he was over-paid, even for what we think we were getting out of him, and we replaced him by December last year. But we dont have him any more, so who cares?
BDBohnzie
11-05-2007, 04:37 PM
At this point, it's a lost cause. Let him sit inactive the rest of the year and get him on the next Greyhound out of Union Station to nowheresville...
It's a shame too. Lloyd has potential, we've seen what he's capable of, as it looked like he was just warming up in San Fran. He just did not buy into The Redskins Way, and that will hurt him for the rest of his career.
C'est la vie, Brandon Lloyd. Too bad you rap about as well as you play football...
Bill B
11-05-2007, 04:43 PM
Good point. I was going to look up what the 49ers did with those picks because ultimately that's how the trade should be graded, and considering the 49ers didn't do much with those picks I don't see how anyone can say they got the better end of the deal. The deal looks like a dud on both ends.
But who's to say the Skins would have used those choices on those players - lets say the Skins saw what was coming with Dockery leaving and instead used those picks to draft 2 guards and one of them panned out and become the next Dockery - would you still say the same thing?
Matty - not trying to be nitpicky here - my hope is the Skins stop throwing draft picks around like they did in the past because my belief is the only way to build long lasting quality teams is through the draft with some free agent spinkles if you know what I mean. I know that a lot of draft picks will not turn out to be good, but at least with more picks you get more chances and outside of the 1st round picks from the 2nd round down they don't squeeze the cap like a $10 million dollar bonus to a Brandon Llyod does.
But who's to say the Skins would have used those choices on those players - lets say the Skins saw what was coming with Dockery leaving and instead used those picks to draft 2 guards and one of them panned out and become the next Dockery - would you still say the same thing?
Matty - not trying to be nitpicky here - my hope is the Skins stop throwing draft picks around like they did in the past because my belief is the only way to build long lasting quality teams is through the draft with some free agent spinkles if you know what I mean. I know that a lot of draft picks will not turn out to be good, but at least with more picks you get more chances and outside of the 1st round picks from the 2nd round down they don't squeeze the cap like a $10 million dollar bonus to a Brandon Llyod does.
The point is you can't say the 49ers got the better end because they simply did not based on who they drafted.
I'm not saying it was wise to give away those picks.
rk3025
11-05-2007, 08:08 PM
We do not need any NFL fines and lost draft picks just to show how stupid we can be[two wrongs do not make riight]
Who's Brandon Lloyd? What a f-ing joke.
I don't care what cap hit is.....get rid of this guy.
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR
11-05-2007, 08:36 PM
why is he still on the roster?
paulskinsfan
11-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Good point. I was going to look up what the 49ers did with those picks because ultimately that's how the trade should be graded, and considering the 49ers didn't do much with those picks I don't see how anyone can say they got the better end of the deal. The deal looks like a dud on both ends.
I dont think that's accurate. The trade should not be viewed as what did the 49ers do with those picks, but rather, who was available that the Skins could have drafted? If you look at it your way, the Bailey for Portis deal was not a bad deal for the Skins even though most fans would agree that the Skins paid too much by throwing in a draft pick.
skinsfan69
11-05-2007, 09:10 PM
Not sure if any of the locals heard George Michael tonight. While he was interviewing Joe Bugel he killed Brandon Lloyd. He said he was stealing from the Redskins and he should give back 1 million to the Redskins charity. He just lit him up real bad. Hopefully someone can post the interview.