AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one!

Gibbs has to admit he made a mistake by bringing in AL. Gibbs is a great coach and offensive mind. Let AL go prove himself somewhere else. If you have the 11th ranked offense in the league why would you change. Mistake. 2004 was only the second year of Gibbs return which means the team was just getting comfortable with the offense. Colts have had the same offense for years that why it is so good. Ok Manning has something to do with that but Gibbs offense is QB friendly. 3 different QBs 3 rings. SAME OFFENSE.

That's a fair point. Good post.

People often forget that Gibbs was originally known as a pass-first coach. Only with Riggins and the talent he had along the O-line did he finally decide to go smashmouth. Bottom line is that he adapted to the personnel that was given to him. Something he needs to do now.

Back in 1992, in the playoff game against Minnesota, there was a stat totalling all of the plays Gibbs had run since 1981. It was perfectly balanced, but with one more pass attempt than running attempt.

No one is suggesting giving up the run. Of course you have to try to run it. But sometimes the passing game can open up the running game. I don't think it would be out of the question to tilt the play selection to something like 55-60% pass to 40-45% run.

I don't think it would signal the apocalypse if they tried that.Indeed, Gibbs 1.0 adjusted to personnel on hand (recall that he was a pass happy O-coordinator in SD) when he hitched the wagon to the Hoggs and Riggo. I believe that he has become too stubborn/blind to reality to adjust today. The smashmouth approach looks good on paper today when the O-line is intact. While I don't want an all-pass, all the time approach, becoming more unpredictable, using the passing game to set up the running game, using multiple spread formations, or going no huddle might not be a bad thing given the shorthanded O-line. I fear that if our running game becomes even more predictable, the results will decline even further in the 2nd half of the season with this personnel.

Sorry, but I've about had it with Joe Bugel and his "tough talk" about "our way or the Trailway".

Excuse me, Assistant Head Coach - Offense Joe, but you've been here for 4 seasons now and have had time to develop all the toughness and dedication you ought to need in your OL. The problem actually is that you managed to acquire/developonly four or five competent offensive linemen and when a couple of them got hurt you had nothing behind them who could get the job done. Oh, that happened in years past too so I guess you didn't learn from those experiences.

You are the legendary "Hog-Master". So, what great offensive lines have you actually developed in the last 15 years? I think the answer to that is zero.

Maybe - just maybe - the Hogs were great because there were at least 3 and maybe 4 outstanding talents on that line at the same time and just about any good line coach could have made them into a dominant unit. In your subsequent stops in the NFL - including your reincarnation here - the offensive lines have been sub-standard most of the time and marginally above average once in a while.

Maybe you should be one of the guys at the Trailways Terminal with bags in hand? Maybe you should be first in line?

Buges said something last year about this time like; "It's Joe's team and he's gonna run it how he wants" in reference to the running game. Seemed like a shot at Saunders. This year it's definitely a shot at the players. Maybe the overall problem is simply dissent and lack of discipline & respect for the coaches.

If there is a problem w/players, why does it take till the middle of the year for the coaches to react to it? Maybe Gibbs & Buges are just using the media to try & fire the team up.

Actually, Matty, that was just a "silly stat line."

I docked myself a few reputation points for using that "silly stat line."

Shame on you.

Get outta here with those silly stats will ya?

Well I just want everyone to know that we are all together on this. If there's one thing I can say, it's that we are all together... all these guys are in this together. Together-ness is how we'll turn this thing around.

Together...

Well I have to be honest here. I just said in another Post that bringing in Al Saunders was a mistake. I love the tone of this article.

Let me give you my reasons why Al was a mistake. Remember after the 2005 run and playoff loss. I remember after that loss that myself and many others were thinking that if we just had a few more weapons would could really make a run at the SB in 06. Well that didn't happen obviously. One because our d was terrible, but two because our offense had taken a huge step back. We were implimenting a whole new offense.

When you have a team that was built by Gibbs ( a smashmouth running team ) you have players that are made for that. Remember Gibbs put this roster together. These guys do not have that finnesse style offense built into their game. The guys here if you look at them aren't the guys to do that. They won't be. They want to hit you in the mouth.

So do Ilike the tone and sound of the article? Yes. It's what we need. A team that is in it together playing the type of football they like to play.

I'll like the tone of the article when this works. I liked Saunders coming in but I thought it was too much to bring him in. THe offense Gibbs had in was working he just didn't have more receivers to take the pressure off Moss. Instead of just getting that we got a whole new offense. Which wasn't supposed to be that much of a difference from Gibbs' book. If this "rededication" works then fine if not, then it was all for nothing. Punish the Jets, don't just win but PUNISH the Jets. Impose your will and control the game. Don't just participate, but CONTROL the game.

Hail to The Fuckin Redskins !!!!

Straight from the Post: "Gibbs has altered the intensity of practice since Sunday's loss. He has spent more time engaged in physical "live" run-blocking and blitz protection drills, and the message delivered again to the players this week resonates like so many since 2004, although the results have been mixed at best. The Redskins remain one of the NFL's predominant teams in rushing attempts, while the league becomes increasingly dominated by spread offenses and dynamic passing attacks."

Two points: 1) If we've been a rushing team, why have we not been pounding in practices (injuries are noted: there is still a way to be physical and safe at practice. 2) EVERYBODY including high schools are running the spread offense and it's a great way to help out the running game. For example, on the 1-3 yard line, spread out the troops (as compared to the same tired jumbo package) and then run it up the gut for a TD...

Straight from the Post: "Gibbs has altered the intensity of practice since Sunday's loss. He has spent more time engaged in physical "live" run-blocking and blitz protection drills, and the message delivered again to the players this week resonates like so many since 2004, although the results have been mixed at best. The Redskins remain one of the NFL's predominant teams in rushing attempts, while the league becomes increasingly dominated by spread offenses and dynamic passing attacks."

Two points: 1) If we've been a rushing team, why have we not been pounding in practices (injuries are noted: there is still a way to be physical and safe at practice. 2) EVERYBODY including high schools are running the spread offense and it's a great way to help out the running game. For example, on the 1-3 yard line, spread out the troops (as compared to the same tired jumbo package) and then run it up the gut for a TD...Running out of the spread does not work consistently in the NFL. It's too easy for the defense to attack downhill and clog up the gaps when only 5 people are blocking.

You can throw out of the spread in the NFL with a lot of effectiveness. That said, you can throw out of pretty much any formation with a lot of effectiveness, so I'm not a big fan of the spread in the NFL.

College, yes, you can at least run the QB out of the spread. Not in the NFL.

Running out of the spread does not work consistently in the NFL. It's too easy for the defense to attack downhill and clog up the gaps when only 5 people are blocking.

You can throw out of the spread in the NFL with a lot of effectiveness. That said, you can throw out of pretty much any formation with a lot of effectiveness, so I'm not a big fan of the spread in the NFL.

College, yes, you can at least run the QB out of the spread. Not in the NFL.

You can not argue that it does help create space. I'm not saying do it on 80-100% of our run plays. But it sure will not hurt to do it more than we currently do. I watch NE run out of spread formations all the time. Of course it doesn't hurt when you have R. Moss on the outside keeping the safties honest.