WP article: Time for Gibbs to walk away?

all his points were right on target,he's saying what 90 percent of us have been saying already,except of course the members of the kool-aid club:FIREdevil:cheeky-sm

all his points were right on target,he's saying what 90 percent of us have been saying already,except of course the members of the kool-aid club:FIREdevil:cheeky-sm

Does that 90% include the 60% of the posters on this site who believe this team is headed to the playoffs? Though I freely admit that I am a member of the Kool-Aid Club, any call for a coach to quit when his team has a winning record is simply retarded. You have to admit that you are a member of the "this team sucks" group.

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Sorry, it worked the first time I did it cause I clicked on it myself to check it out. Wierd.

Gibbs isn't the same Gibbs of 1981-92 guys. The very fact that Saunders is here should tell you that. Gibbs called the plays during his first stint here and had at that time the most prolific offensive machine in the NFL til the Vikings of the mid to late 90's broke all the Skins offensive records. Also you had no FA, no greedy, uneducated morons only after bling, and a salary cap to hinder you back then. Gibbs also had Bobby Beathred to help build his team for him. Gibbs isn't cut out to be team president. It sucks to say th at but it is true. Play calling and clock management have been very poor at times, more akin to a rookie NFL coach than a HOF coach. Injuries and lack of execution aside, we could still be 6-1 now if he didn't throttle back the offense as he has. If Gibbs can't right the ship this season, we need to have him step down and get Cowher or another real coach to takeover. If Gibbs stays his full tenure they will just hand the job to Williams who is not HC material. Are you guys really going to want to wait til Williams gets canned to see a winner in DC again? I think it has been a long enough wait don't you?


All of us here view the Redskins from a different perspective mainly because we are for the most part, "die hard fans". There are those however who view them from a more objective standpoint, and do not see the same things we see, or share the same views. Just as we see the team at 4-3 and relatively satisfied with that mark, there are others who say based on the way we have played the games, we could just as easily be 1-6.

I want to think of Shapiro as an objective writer with no personal gripe with either Gibbs or the Redskins. I'm convinced however that when the casual observer watches the way the Redskins play, they come away with a feeling of not always whether they win or lose, but how they played the game.

Does that 90% include the 60% of the posters on this site who believe this team is headed to the playoffs? Though I freely admit that I am a member of the Kool-Aid Club, any call for a coach to quit when his team has a winning record is simply retarded. You have to admit that you are a member of the "this team sucks" group.


I think he's calling for Gibbs to walk away after the season, not now.

Just as we see the team at 4-3 and relatively satisfied with that mark, there are others who say based on the way we have played the games, we could just as easily be 1-6.

And then there are those of us who think we could just as easily be 6-1. Could we be 1-6, sure if a ball here or there didn't bounce our way. But, we could just as easily be 6-1 had a few balls bounced our way against the Packers and Giants.

In the end, it does not matter how we played the game, how we won the game, or how we lost the game. All that matters is whether we won it.

I think he's calling for Gibbs to walk away after the season, not now.

Yeah. But, whether he is saying that Gibbs should walk away now or at the end of the season, he is still saying that in Week 9 when we have a winning record. It's simply premature.

I didn't see and don't need to read the article.

You really should read the article.

While the Patriots make everybody look bad, they haven't beaten anyone as bad as they beat the Redskins. And we were supposed to be their biggest challenge yet! What bothers me isn't the fact that we lost, I certainly didn't think we'd pull off the upset. But I didn't think we'd get smashed the way we did either.

This was the first time I've ever seen a Joe Gibbs-coached team look completely intimidated from start to finish. There was a group of men on the field in Massachusettes on Sunday afternoon, and there were a group of boys -- the Redskins played like scared little boys crying for their mommies that day.

It was sickening to watch.

I've never once called for any of these coaches to get canned. Not Gregg Williams, not Saunders, and certainly not Gibbs. But I have to admit, when Gibbs' team didn't even appear like they wanted to be on the field, my confidence in him was shaken like it never has been before. Only the most delusional of fans would have the courage to say that the Redskins gave it all they could. They played like dogs and ran away with their tails between their legs. Joe Gibbs' team reached the pathetic depths of incompetent buffoonery like it never came close to before, at a time when they had the chance to show the world that they could at least hang with the Patriots and put up some semblance of a dogfight.

In the four years that Joe Gibbs has had to right this ship, that there was such an immeasurable gap between these two teams is telling.

In the end, it does not matter how we played the game, how we won the game, or how we lost the game. All that matters is whether we won it.
I disagree. Yes, the final score is what matters. I will never make an apology for a win, or make excuses for a loss. However, if you're not looking at how the team is playing, you're ignoring the problems with this team. Namely that they typically play up or down to their competition, and that is a TERRIBLE trait for a team to have. My issue with the recent team is the inconsistency. I want to know each week if we're a good team or a bad team.

SGG -- He also said he wanted Gibbs to walk away after last season. I think the strength of our opponents should be looked at a bit as far as the record. Our schedule is what it is, but when evaluating your talent, you must look at the teams you're playing.

I liked his jab at Belichick calling him classless.