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GTripp0012 10-25-2007, 11:44 AM With all the hype between the Colts and the Patriots, it seems fitting that one of them would lose this week.
And lets face it, that's not going to be Indy.
They both may win, but how fitting would it be if we could ruin everything the media ever wanted, AND some when we cut the Cowboys' lead to a game.
firstdown 10-25-2007, 11:51 AM I think its been debated here several times!
SmootSmack 10-25-2007, 11:55 AM I'm really not complaining, I just thought it was interesting when Phil Simms was on Mike & Mike yesterday and he seemed to think that this wasn't an issue that mattered much to the fans, and it was something that mattered more to the media.
Fans always care about rankings and lists though. More so for their teams than individual players. But still, plenty of fans like to hear/see/read where their favorite team/player is ranked. Except for when it's lower than they'd like and then the lists are bogus.
I dunno, I just don't see fans sitting around debating this as much as ESPN does.
I think the majority of fans are smart enough to know that both guys are exceptional, and you really couldn't go wrong with either one.
I think it's mainly the media that is obsessed with rankings and lists and these "who's better" debates. And they do generate buzz and discussion, so that in that respect the media is just doing their job.
hagams 10-25-2007, 12:12 PM This is them trying to make something interesting, into a world changing topic. They are both good QB's, but I have a question. Take Brady and give him to the Dolphins, and take Payton and give him to the Rams. Do they have a high caliber team in a year? Probably not. The talent level surrounding both QB's are extremely high.
This is them trying to make something interesting, into a world changing topic. They are both good QB's, but I have a question. Take Brady and give him to the Dolphins, and take Payton and give him to the Rams. Do they have a high caliber team in a year? Probably not. The talent level surrounding both QB's are extremely high.
I think they are both great, but yeah at the same time the talent/coaching around them only enhances their performance.
I think it was Simms yesterday that said there's a reason why you don't see a QB with great numbers on a bad team.
SmootSmack 10-25-2007, 12:32 PM I dunno, I just don't see fans sitting around debating this as much as ESPN does.
I think the majority of fans are smart enough to know that both guys are exceptional, and you really couldn't go wrong with either one.
I think it's mainly the media that is obsessed with rankings and lists and these "who's better" debates. And they do generate buzz and discussion, so that in that respect the media is just doing their job.
Perhaps. But it's not the media on our fansite that's creating threads such as these:
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/15347-brady-or-manning.html
Fans like to talk about this stuff. More so, as I said, when it involves their own team/players. Also, rankings/lists are not exclusive to ESPN
GTripp0012 10-25-2007, 01:17 PM I think they are both great, but yeah at the same time the talent/coaching around them only enhances their performance.
I think it was Simms yesterday that said there's a reason why you don't see a QB with great numbers on a bad team.Well playing QB really well is one way to ensure that a team won't be bad, I agree.
Re: Brady-Manning, I never understood why it made sense to debate something like that. Now that Brady is finally putting together a season that even Manning was never able to accomplish before, you'd think that the debate would even be stronger among fans. I think fans are just tired of it. They want to know either: where these guys rank among the all time greats, or if anyone else deserves to be thrown into the same category.
The debate is still stupid, but for very different reasons now than before. Still, if you are paid analyst, people want to know your opinion on this to see where you stand.
mheisig 10-25-2007, 01:28 PM Is it wrong that when I first read the thread title I got all excited to read some arguments about which QB was better?
I was kind of disappointed when I actually read it. And now I feel like Matty doesn't want me here.
Is it wrong that when I first read the thread title I got all excited to read some arguments about which QB was better?
I was kind of disappointed when I actually read it. And now I feel like Matty doesn't want me here.
Not saying we can't discuss it.
For the record I'd take Manning if I was starting a franchise. Not to take anything away from Brady, I think they are both 1 and 1a as far as the top QBs in the game go. They are the modern day Marino and Montana, and perhaps in time they will both prove to be better than those two, who knows.
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