Are we 4-2 because of Gibbs, or in spite of him?

In spite of Gibbs. I'd like to see Gibbs get out of the way and let AS do his thing.

I really think Gibbs influences the playcalling when we get a lead. I believe he steps in and dictates whether we run or throw the ball. Do I have any hard evidence of this? Nope. What really irritates me is how poorly the clock is managed and replay challenges are handled. For example, at the end of the Giants game I don't think anyone had a clue what was going on, it looked like a team that never ran a 2 minute offense.

In every single thread I read Saunders is calling the plays, but then when we start doing shitty it's because Gibbs just decided to start calling plays at that moment and take our team down the drain. I highly doubt the Gibbs takes over playcalling at random moments and singlehandedly causes all of our second half collapses.

No one can make me believe that Gibbs doesn't have major impact on AS playcalling. JG may not call the plays but he controls the theme of the game, no doubt.

I say let Al free. We brought him here, let him do his thing.

We're 4-2 b/c of both.

We've won 4 games because of ... Shawns Springs...

We've lost 2 games because of ... Shawns Springs...

Sorry Double S, had to do it...

It's a collective effort among coaches, players and other staff. Everyone is held accountable, so why single one person out, even if it's the head coach? Just be glad to be 4-2, and not 0fer like the 'phins and Rams.

Personally I doubt that Gibbs overrules Saunder's play calling during a game, if he does I think it's pretty rare. Does he influence the game plan heading into the game? Of course, after all he is still heavily involved with the offense.

And as someone already pointed out, despite Saunders' reputation as being this high flying offensive guru, his offenses have produced some pretty hearty running games over the years, and that's one of the reasons that Gibbs went out and recruited Saunders.

Gibbs has got the organization on the right track, even Peter King agrees w/that.

Let's be happy that he's brought some stability & although we got our hopes up after the 05 playoffs & thought we had a contender, things take a while. He's helped to undo some bad moves & bad practices. Of course, he also had a hand in moves like getting B.Loyd, but I'll take that along w/the positives.

I share the feeling of many here that Gibbs seems too worried about losing leads which has in turn led to doing just that. I think he'll see the light w/the situation now though. This o-line is better at pass blocking than run blocking. JC is a good qb & we have a decent wr corps & nice TE.

I expect to see the ball in the air a lot on sunday. We'll set up the run w/the pass like we did in Detroit. That's our only hope IMO. I'd be absolutely shocked if we could pound the ball on NE in the first half.

For those of you who want Gibbs to let Saunders have complete autonomy in the offensive gameplanning, do you remember when he first came here and they were running about thirty reverses a game? Gibbs is the overwhelming yin to Saunder's yang.

Yes, I said yang, not wang.

For those of you who want Gibbs to let Saunders have complete autonomy in the offensive gameplanning, do you remember when he first came here and they were running about thirty reverses a game? Gibbs is the overwhelming yin to Saunder's yang.

Yes, I said yang, not wang.


I could go for that gameplan against NE. :)

Randel El, Moss if he holds onto the ball, Portis, heck even Lloyd could run those plays well.

On the other plays, we either throw long bombs or hand it to Big Mike.

Oh, Because of Gibbs is my answer. :)

I could go for that gameplan against NE. :)

Randel El, Moss if he holds onto the ball, Portis, heck even Lloyd could run those plays well.

On the other plays, we either throw long bombs or hand it to Big Mike.

I would actually really like Sellers to get a good amount of carries. I'm talking maybe 10-15.