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TheMalcolmConnection 10-22-2007, 05:19 PM I don't have a problem with the play calling, personally, and I'd also point out that the Cards never abandoned the run even though they got stuffed the whole game. By the end Edge started breaking off some nice runs and they wore the Skins D out. That is why you continue to run the football.
I don't think it was any reflection on the defense so much as we probably were playing pass considering how late in the game it was.
I honestly don't have a problem with our OL depth, but when you're down to your 8th and 9th lineman, I think any team is going to have some issues.
The Zimmermans 10-22-2007, 05:25 PM many teams take hits to their O-lines, adjust, and succeed
GTripp0012 10-22-2007, 05:26 PM The offensive line is the heart of a football team, it provides a running game, it provides time for the passing game, and it allows you over all to sustain drives which keeps your defense off the field and fresh, the problem is we have IMO overrated our line we are not good run blockers, we do not have a line that knocks people off the LOS, they have to be utilized differently, as in draws, traps, screens, slant passes, our line is like a boxer who doesn't have one punch knock out power, he has to ware down his opponent in order to knock him out later in the match, I think Gibbs is stuck in a time warp believing he can run the same type of plays he did in his first tenure now, 1 problem, he doesn't have the hogs to knock guys off the LOS, he needs to figure out another way to move the ball to ware teams down, even with a healthy line. He has neglected building depth through the draft at the O-line position as if it is an after thought when it should be his top priority. So cutting Gibbs some slack right now because of a banged up line is definitely justifiable, but his lack of attention to bringing in some real horses for that line rests on him.I agree that we overrated our line in the past, but the past is pretty much irrelevant when only 1 guy on the line was relevant in the past...and he's probably even better.
I didn't think we'd be too much better than middle of the road when healthy, but you can't say that these injuries aren't killing us.
Southpaw 10-22-2007, 05:27 PM He has neglected building depth through the draft at the O-line position as if it is an after thought when it should be his top priority. So cutting Gibbs some slack right now because of a banged up line is definitely justifiable, but his lack of attention to bringing in some real horses for that line rests on him.
What people seem to forget is Wade, Heyer, and Fabini were all backups at the beginning of the season, and if they were still backups now, I'd personally be very happy with the O line depth. Wade and Heyer specifically, are probably better than most teams third and fourth offensive tackles, but when they both go down with injuries in a game, it's just plain bad luck, and nearly impossible to prepare for.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-22-2007, 05:31 PM many teams take hits to their O-lines, adjust, and succeed
I'd like to know what other teams with at least a 4-2 record have lost three starters along the O-line and have two of their backups injured (Wade and Heyer). In fact, forget the 4-2 record, find me a team with 5 o-linemen who have injuries that are as bad as Thomas', Jansen's, Rabach's, Heyer's, and Wade's.
It's nice and all to say "adapt and overcome," it's another to realistically expect a team to do so with those kind of injuries along the O-line. In fact, with all due respect, I find it kind of crazy.
Southpaw 10-22-2007, 05:33 PM many teams take hits to their O-lines, adjust, and succeed
Show me any other team in the league that has had to resort to converting a defensive lineman to offense. Or any team that has lost five lineman in seven weeks of football.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-22-2007, 05:34 PM Show me any other team in the league that has had to resort to converting a defensive lineman to offense. Or any team that has lost five lineman in seven weeks of football.
Who cares if they have to use a d-linemen on offense? I mean, they should be able to throw in Brandon Lloyd or Reche Caldwell at tackle and not miss a beat. It's not like that is asking too much.
The Zimmermans 10-22-2007, 05:53 PM Who cares if they have to use a d-linemen on offense? I mean, they should be able to throw in Brandon Lloyd or Reche Caldwell at tackle and not miss a beat. It's not like that is asking too much.
Patriots did it two years ago.....lost 3 of their starting 5....and had no receivers
The Zimmermans 10-22-2007, 05:55 PM We should have known that Jansen and Thomas get hurt every year. I am tired of excuses....you guys make as many excuses as you like...if the O-line is hurting, then why don't we punt the ball on first down
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