What's your defnition of 'conservative playcalling'?

my definition of conservative play-calling (from what i saw yesterday):

throwing screens on 3rd and 13 with a one possession lead

rushing 4 and dropping 7 into a prevent shell with a 2 point lead

- i dont have a problem with conservative play-calling, i like coach gibbs approach of running the ball early and often, eating up the play-clock, and not turing the ball over and letting your D be the deciding factor in winning games but we just cant do that now with our O line injuries

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hahaha firstdown are you catching feelings from last weeks post about fan behavior? lighten up buddy, were on the same team!!!

Its funny when MB was playing people said that he was always dumping the ball off now when JC does this its conservative play calling.

The difference is, Brunell never even looked downfield until the game was all but lost, and he couldn't possibly be blamed for giving it away. Campbell takes shots downfield, and even on a few plays yesterday, you could see Campbell looking deep before checking down.

Brunell also had the benefit of a receiver that had a chip on his shoulder and a point to prove. Campbell is dealing with the same receiver, but he's become a headcase that forgot how to make plays.

Its funny when MB was playing people said that he was always dumping the ball off now when JC does this its conservative play calling.

We were not calling deep passes yesterday. Sanders even mentioned it in his interviews after the game. He said we went in with a conservative game plan.

We were not calling deep passes yesterday. Sanders even mentioned it in his interviews after the game. He said we went in with a conservative game plan.

I'm not sure what your definition of "deep" is, but there were at least a few called. Thrash dropped a pretty long toss.

By my definition, I would say conservative play calling is simply calling any play that prioritizes limiting the chance of a mistake over gaining yards, and first downs and or points.

I think this is a GREAT thread because it does little good to criticize play calling with out first defining what conservative play calling is.

No offense can have success if the play calling is too conservative. However, it's my understanding that people in general don't themselves understand what conservative play calling is prior to voicing their opinion. By definition, a running play on third and eight is NOT CONSERVATIVE if it was called with the primary intent of picking up the first down. It can only be "conservative" if the intent was simply to waste a down without turning the ball over. Generally with the lead, you want to get more conservative as it gets later and later, and the Skins have adhered to this principle thus far. It's the execution that has prevented late game success.
Very nice post, and I agree with you. By this definition, wouldn't it make sense to try to limit mistakes when leading with a young QB? I agree that I'd like to see more passes on 1st and 2nd, but who wants to see a 1st down pick or sacks that put us in 3rd&21?
Keep the clock moving. The frustration for me is the incompletions and TO's in the second halves. Of course, a screen pass should never be picked off.

I'm not sure what your definition of "deep" is, but there were at least a few called. Thrash dropped a pretty long toss.

Forget the real deep stuff. I'm looking for more mid range 15-25 yards stuff. What happened to the creative stuff we had against Det? How about a hurry up offense once in a while? JC seems to run that real well. Someone mentioned in another thread about rolling JC out. How come we don't see this anymore? Gibbs 1 use to roll out Rypien all the time. JC has way more mobility than Rypien ever had. Just do anything to try and score more than 14 freakin points a game. If it doesn't work then fine. At least we are trying instead of letting the defense try and win it every week. It's just the same old shit week in and week out.

I'm happy to be 4-2 but to beat alot of teams we have coming up we are going to have to play alot better on offense. You mean to tell me that we have all these offensive coaches and that was the best gameplan you can come up with? If I were Snyder I would be pissed as hell.

The bottom line is Gibbs just can't seem to coach to win. He coaches not to loose and it is getting so old and it almost cost us the game yesterday.

LOSING franchises make excuses

WINNING franchises make up for it....we are at a crossroads right now..and what happens this sunday in NE may set the trend

God i hope it doesnt set the trend, im already trying to forget it.

Its funny when MB was playing people said that he was always dumping the ball off now when JC does this its conservative play calling.

The difference is that JC has been going deep on a pretty consistent basis, he just wasn't going deep against the Cards. MB rarely went deep. Saunders admitted during the offseason that JC gives the ability to go deep on a more consistent basis.