Why all the complaining?

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skinsfan242
10-21-2007, 06:53 PM
You know no matter what happened we ended up WINNING the Game. There are some things that can be questioned but you also have to remember this is the NFL and the other teams step up when their backs are against the wall. No matter what happened we won the game.

Can everyone on here just talk about the Fact that we are 4-2 when everyone including alot of you thought we would have a 5-11 or 6-10 season?

Can you talk about how the Defense is dominant and if not for two stupid personal fouls the game would have never been close?

Sure all you want to do is complain but I guarntee you the Packers fans weren't complaining they beat us when we gave the game away.

Let's just go with the facts, we have a great defense an injured offensive line and we play hard. We are 4-2 not 3-3.

Have a good week and just hope we can pull off a Major Upset next week.

4mrusmc
10-21-2007, 07:05 PM
This game was won because of our defense. Our offense looks like crap. What happened to JCs' alledge offseason progress? I have yet to see such progress. And could someone please tell me why we brought in Al Saunders to call our offensive plays? Portis looks a little slow running the ball.

BigSKINBauer
10-21-2007, 07:06 PM
our o-line is young and inexperienced. They will pick it up more and more as the weeks progress.

WillH
10-21-2007, 07:07 PM
Im sorry....WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!

SouperMeister
10-21-2007, 07:16 PM
What is troubling is that watching this team is dare I say, like watching the Skins during the Norv Turner era try to give away a game. Let's count the ways:

1. Up 14-0 and having forced a change of possession on downs, Gibbs/Saunders dial up a screen pass on first down at mid-field that is intercepted, leading to a Cardinal score. Instead of seizing the game with a score before the half we let a team on the ropes back in the game - sound familiar?

2. Up 21-6 in the 3rd quarter, the D takes TWO personal fouls on 3rd down stops, all but handing the Cards another score to make it a one TD game again.

3. Ultra-conservative offensive playcalling when it's clear that the Cards are selling out to stop the run. I counted ONE Campbell pass attempt over 20 yards (to Thrash). That is not enough to get Adrian Wilson and gang to respect the pass. We are four years into Gibbs 2.0 and this offense still only scores 3 or more TDs less than one third of the time.

4. At one point, I believe that the Skins had about 10 consecutive runs on 1st down. Is that the kind of predictability that we're paying Saunders $2M to dial up?

Until Gibbs takes the handcuffs off of Campbell and trusts him to make plays downfield, the Skins will remain mired in mediocrity.

SC Skins Fan
10-21-2007, 07:18 PM
our o-line is young and inexperienced. They will pick it up more and more as the weeks progress.

The o-line is the problem, you are obviously right there. They aren't young, though, and the reason everyone is so down, I suspect, is that with the o-line basically in shambles there is not much prospect for improvement of the offense. Getting Rabach back will help, but Fabini is simply not a good player. He can pass block some, but got eaten alive by Dockett today, and cannot run block to save his life. The Skins cannot run right, backs are being forced to make cuts three and four yards deep. I just am far less sanguine about the future prospects of the line than you are. Let's be clear, though, the problem IS the line not Campbell or Portis or Saunders. You could see Campbell's offseason progress in that first half. The throw to Randle El was great, he threw it to the back shoulder because he saw the safety coming over the middle and the read on the abortive shovel pass to Portis where he saw that the Cards read the play and so he tucked it and ran for the first down was great as well. If the Skins can't run, though, they are going to struggle to beat anyone the rest of the way. The Defense was worn down by the end because the offense could not sustain a drive or even pick up a first down. They couldn't open any holes and they couldn't protect Jason, and I'm not sure what is going on with Moss at this point.

WaldSkins
10-21-2007, 07:28 PM
its the oline not campbell, he is playing great after only getting to play for less then 2 full seasons. he was second in the nfc in passer rating coming into the game. the offense looks like shit right now and its on the offensive line being injured. we have 3 starters out on the line. Our yards per play running has decreased every week since week one when we were healthy. if you cant run, it opens up no room for the passing game... Campbell is playing pretty good. his deep ball needs a little air underneath, but his short and midpasses are where they need to be, we just need to catch them....

MTK
10-21-2007, 07:36 PM
I'm just amazed that people seem to be shocked that the offense is sputtering with 3 starters out on the offensive line and two others banged up. Samuels is our only healthy starter right now.

Anyone recall the Green Bay game at the end when we couldn't even get a pass off??

Considering how poor the line play was last week I think Buges and company did as good of a job as he could have getting a patchwork line together today.

4mrusmc
10-21-2007, 07:43 PM
What is troubling is that watching this team is dare I say, like watching the Skins during the Norv Turner era try to give away a game. Let's count the ways:

1. Up 14-0 and having forced a change of possession on downs, Gibbs/Saunders dial up a screen pass on first down at mid-field that is intercepted, leading to a Cardinal score. Instead of seizing the game with a score before the half we let a team on the ropes back in the game - sound familiar?

2. Up 21-6 in the 3rd quarter, the D takes TWO personal fouls on 3rd down stops, all but handing the Cards another score to make it a one TD game again.

3. Ultra-conservative offensive playcalling when it's clear that the Cards are selling out to stop the run. I counted ONE Campbell pass attempt over 20 yards (to Thrash). That is not enough to get Adrian Wilson and gang to respect the pass. We are four years into Gibbs 2.0 and this offense still only scores 3 or more TDs less than one third of the time.

4. At one point, I believe that the Skins had about 10 consecutive runs on 1st down. Is that the kind of predictability that we're paying Saunders $2M to dial up?

Until Gibbs takes the handcuffs off of Campbell and trusts him to make plays downfield, the Skins will remain mired in mediocrity.
Well said, and I second that. This team is going to get it's ass handed back to them against new england I'm sorry to say.

hooskins
10-21-2007, 07:44 PM
I'm just amazed that people seem to be shocked that the offense is sputtering with 3 starters on the offensive line and two others banged up. Samuels is our only healthy starter right now.

Anyone recall the Green Bay game at the end when we couldn't even get a pass off??

Considering how poor the line play was last week I think Buges and company did as good of a job as he could have getting a patchwork line together today.

Yeah he did ok, but at the same time how can you assume the D will play this amazing all year round? That is impossible. No defense consistently returns picks for TDs and creates turnovers.

The point is yeah we did ok, but we didn't play a good team and we barely sqeaked by. Next week will be terrible and I can't begin to imagine playing the Cowboys.

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