Why all the complaining?

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-22-2007, 05:38 PM
I have no problem with complaints about the team, provided they are reasonable. Unfortunately, I have been seeing a lot of "the sky is falling," "the end is near," "4-2 is actually a losing record" posts lately that IMO aren't very reasonable.

MTK
10-22-2007, 06:41 PM
I have no problem with complaints about the team, provided they are reasonable. Unfortunately, I have been seeing a lot of "the sky is falling," "the end is near," "4-2 is actually a losing record" posts lately that IMO aren't very reasonable.

I'm convinced half this board has lost it's F'ing mind.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
10-22-2007, 06:58 PM
I'm convinced half this board has lost it's F'ing mind.

I think it has a lot to do with most fans' preference for strong offenses versus strong defenses, even though most great teams have stronger defenses than offenses. If our offense was putting up 35 points people would be happy even if our defense was allowing 30 points. The fact is, however, that a football team is made up of two units. Right now, our offense is struggling but our defense is playing lights out.

Who cares if we are winning games by narrow margins? Who cares if our defense is doing really well but our offense is struggling? People used to say, all that matters is our record. I don't hear people saying that anymore. For me, the bottom line is the bottom line. We are 4-2 and I am happy. My tune will change if we plummet to 4-6, but I'm not going to freak out so long as we have a winning record. And I will remain estatic so long as we are winning 2 games for every 1 game we lose.

Chief X_Phackter
10-22-2007, 07:02 PM
And the other half is content with mediocrity.

Seriously 364 total yards for the Cards to 160 total yards for the Skins...

Once again, thrilled that we were able to hang on some how and get to 4-2, but not happy with what I've seen on the offensive side of the ball...injuries or not.

MTK
10-22-2007, 07:03 PM
I think it has a lot to do with most fans' preference for strong offenses versus strong defenses, even though most great teams have stronger defenses than offenses. If our offense was putting up 35 points people would be happy even if our defense was allowing 30 points. The fact is, however, that a football team is made up of two units. Right now, our offense is struggling but our defense is playing lights out.

Who cares if we are winning games by narrow margins? Who cares if our defense is doing really well but our offense is struggling? People used to say, all that matters is our record. I don't hear people saying that anymore. For me, the bottom line is the bottom line. We are 4-2 and I am happy. My tune will change if we plummet to 4-6, but I'm not going to freak out so long as we have a winning record. And I will remain estatic so long as we are winning 2 games for every 1 game we lose.

If our crystal ball back in August said we were going to start the season 4-2 I don't think there would be one single complaint. Well, we're 4-2 so what's the problem? Even with a severely depleted OL and a young QB we've managed to win 4 of 6. Yet all some people can focus on is this retarded play calling debate, like calling more shotguns is the answer to our woes. Gimme a break.

MTK
10-22-2007, 07:06 PM
And the other half is content with mediocrity.

Seriously 364 total yards for the Cards to 160 total yards for the Skins...

Once again, thrilled that we were able to hang on some how and get to 4-2, but not happy with what I've seen on the offensive side of the ball...injuries or not.

Hell yeah I'm happy with "mediocrity" if it means we stay on this current pace of winning 4 of every 6 games.

Chief X_Phackter
10-22-2007, 08:32 PM
I will withhold any further comment until after the Patriots game. Let's just see how far this defense can carry the team. I'm betting we will get a good idea this weekend. You can't keep winning with defense. At some point you have to put points on the board with your offense...especially against teams such as the Patriots and Cowboys.

JWsleep
10-22-2007, 08:55 PM
You are correct, sir. In my way to work, I was listenning to Doc Walker on SportsTalk 980. He was saying how sick he is of the team using the O-line as an excuse for being sloppy. Yes, the line is not what they envisioned it to be in the preseason, but you can't just simply give up. I mean the Titans and Panthers won with back-up QBs. Good teams don't just throw in the towel because players get hurt.

I don't think many of the skins are taking this line--lots of them have said, hey, this happens in the NFL, people need to step up and make plays. Who on the skins (not people on this board! ) ) have said this? But I agree that this issue is sloppiness (i.e., execution) as much as anything. Still, O-line chemistry is an issue--it takes time for these guys to gel sometimes, and when your center is out, it really makes things worse, given the line calls he makes. So replacements can lead to sloppiness, at least in blocks.

But whatever--they've got to find a way to win. Nothing is given to you in this league. Oh, and they did find a way to win last week, despite the sloppiness, injuries, and whatnot. I like JCs comments about peaking in Nov and Dec (and beyond)--the bright side is we haven't played our best football yet, and we're 4-2. Hopefully, we get Rabach back and eventually Thomas. That will be a big boost.

djnemo65
10-22-2007, 10:05 PM
We are 4-2, and our two losses we gave away. We have one of the most consistent defenses in the league. Not devestating like 04, but better in a lot of ways because of decreased vulnerability to the big play (remember the Denver game in 05, for example, or pretty much all of last year?) We appear to have our first true franchise qb since the 1980's. We have a patchwork line that is only going to get better. We play in the NFC.

Let's try and cheer up folks huh? You guys complain when we outplay our opponent and lose, ok, but then shouldn't you be thrilled when we don't show up and still win? Or did you guys think we would go 19-0 and win the superbowl and beat everybody by 40 points?

4mrusmc
10-22-2007, 10:51 PM
I've honestly never seen so much whining after a win and a 4-2 start.
It's not whining. It is simply us trying to discuss in a forum (which I think you started and I for one appreciate) ways that we would like to see our team conduct it's buisness that some of us pay good money to support. It doesn't make us any less of a fan if we may NOT from time to time look at this team through Kool-aid colored glasses. I for one think that what this team really so deperately needs is a possession receiver (in the mold of an Art Monk) who isn't just here for a year before going on Social Security, and is above 6'. That receiver for the cardinals (Larry Fitzgarald) would look nice in B/G.

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