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FRPLG 10-22-2007, 12:41 PM I've honestly never seen so much whining after a win and a 4-2 start.
No kidding. I don't get it. I mean it seems we all agree the offense is sucking but I don't get the attacks. Looking realitically at the situation it is obvious to me and just about anyone who understands the game even a bit that this is what we CAN DO on offense right now. There isn't some magic "Our line sucks" offensive strategy that will allow us to score 30 points a game. If there was then everyone would use it already.
FRPLG 10-22-2007, 12:45 PM Look at it this way.
An offense is a machine. Lots of moving parts working together for a common goal. One part starts malfunctioning and the rest of the parts probably hide it in most cases. Another and maybe some issues start showing up. If the wrong part breaks then the problems become obvious.
The OLine is the engine of this machine. When it starts breaking down it doesn't matter how good anyone else is because you simply can't operate with every play breaking down in a rushed jailhouse break. Our OLine is broken right now. If you want to attack depth I can that argument way more but don't attack the philosophy because we are cornered.
skinsfan242 10-22-2007, 12:51 PM I've honestly never seen so much whining after a win and a 4-2 start.
Exactly. That is not why I started this post. I just hope all these people aren't the same ones who change their stance every single week (I know they are). We are 4-2 and if the playoffs started today we would be in them so everyone needs to sit back calm down and realize we WON the game we DID NOT LOSE.
firstdown 10-22-2007, 01:01 PM Use Shotgun 40% of the time, rollout 20% of the time, throw first to get a rythm to set up the run. Use shotgun draws, hurry up offense, quick counts....anything different.
No more reverses or anything that takes time behind the line.
Our line sucks...they better changes offensive philosophy now.
Campbell is good enough to sling it deep.
Yes, there will be a pick every game, but if you throw deep, with our D, it is essentially a punt anyways.
Wow and to think your not even a coach!! You must have been over looked!
Wow and to think your not even a coach!! You must have been over looked!
Hey, he probably runs his own Madden franchise. Doesn't that count for something?
firstdown 10-22-2007, 01:10 PM Hey, he probably runs his own Madden franchise. Doesn't that count for something?
Sorry, I didn't think of that. He might play fantasy football.
Chief X_Phackter 10-22-2007, 01:15 PM Why all the complaining?
You aren't serious are you? After an offensive performance like that and you don't understand why people might complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled we won the game as I'm sure everyone is, BUT...Hell, even the Skins offensive players will tell you they are embarrassed by the way the offense played yesterday. Something has to give, and I won't put it all on the banged up offensive line. There's more to it than that.
We have a great defense, but a couple more games like this and the defense will be worn out, then we'll have no offense or defense. I mean it's like the defense is playing two games in one every week as much as they are on the field.
Holy S.., even crybaby "Bram" is defending the Skins, and their performance (considering the O line). My world has once again spun off it's axis
skinsfan242 10-22-2007, 01:35 PM Why all the complaining?
You aren't serious are you? After an offensive performance like that and you don't understand why people might complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled we won the game as I'm sure everyone is, BUT...Hell, even the Skins offensive players will tell you they are embarrassed by the way the offense played yesterday. Something has to give, and I won't put it all on the banged up offensive line. There's more to it than that.
We have a great defense, but a couple more games like this and the defense will be worn out, then we'll have no offense or defense. I mean it's like the defense is playing two games in one every week as much as they are on the field.
I am serious. Everyone complains not matter what happens. We were 5-11 last year, and now we complain when we WIN a game. Nobody gives the other team credit at all. They played hard shut us down in the second half. The consistently blitzed up the Middle and Campbell had no time to throw the ball. The coaches knew that and tried to catch them in a blitz, it didn't work. We didn't play they way we can but we are still 4-2.
Our QB is the real deal our Defense is real good and if not for two STUPID penalties the Cardinals would have never been close. Sure you can make a case about the play calling but how do you know what they called? They could have been trying to open it up Campbell had no time so he checked down.
People complain about things they don't even understand and it is annoying, you would think the fact we WON the game would help but it doesn't. These are all the same people who wrote us off before the season and now think we should be blowing out everyone we play. It is clear our Oline is struggling and to win without argulably the most important Oline man against a good Defense should make people happy.
#56fanatic 10-22-2007, 01:41 PM Most of these attacks are based on who we ALMOST lost to and how we ALMOST lost the game. This way of losing games has become a trend with this team over the last 4 years. The offense is anemic. Everyone was to say the Oline sucks, which is absolutely does, but it should not be the excuse for everything. The guys we have playing have been starters in this league. quality starters. Rabach probably hurt more than any of the others being out yesterday, but the playcalling in the 2nd half is and has been not very good. Teams seem to be able to adjust a couple of things on the defensive side to stop us completely in out tracks. We simply make no adjustments at all, we continue to do the same things week in and week out. I think most of us here believe we should be able to beat these teams we are suppose to beat, but beat them handily and we are not. We didn't take advantage of a beat up Warner yesterday, when we knew they were one dimentional at the end of the game. GW use to dial up some blitz's that would crush teams when they did that. but that is not what he wants to do this year. These games should not be nail biters if we are going to consider ourselves a playoff team. Teams coming up on the schedule will absolutely bury us and it wont be close. Dallas and the D is coming on strong, G-men D is playing as good as any, Tampa's D. plus their offenses are strong. Yes winning the game is great, 4-2 is great, but for the life of me I can't get excited knowing who we have coming up and knowing we are just not very good right now.
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