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BrudLee 10-21-2007, 12:25 AM From SI.com's "Dr. Z" Paul Zimmerman:
Frank of Bel Air, Md. -- "I'm not an old fogy and I want those lineups, too. Now, if we could just get you to come around on Art Monk for the Hall of Fame, you'd be 100 percent." Take heart. I'm softening my position on Art.
I've long stated that the opposition to Art is especially bad because it comes from those with larger podiums, namely Peter King and Dr. Z. King changed his mind last year, and Z may be next...
dmek25 10-21-2007, 07:31 AM what reasons do the naysayers give for monk not getting in? hell, i think Gary Clark has a good argument for getting in
SouperMeister 10-21-2007, 10:02 AM what reasons do the naysayers give for monk not getting in? hell, i think Gary Clark has a good argument for getting inThe argument that I've heard most often is that he was only a 3-time Pro Bowler ('84, '85, & '86) and that he wasn't even the most feared receiver on his team (King and Zimmerman have argued that Clark was). For those of us who watched Monk week in and week out, we know better. He was the guy who the Skins almost always seemed to go to on 3rd down passing plays to sustain drives. He also had far superior hands than Clark. I recall Clark having some big drops at times, often using his arms and body to catch the ball. Monk always had the best hands on the team. Monk also was the best blocking WR of his generation, a big key for the Redskins power running attack. I agree that you can make an argument for Clark also. Clark and Monk clearly would have had better stats had the other not been on the team, much like Swann and Stallworth had to share the ball in Pittsburgh. Monk alone retired with more receptions than the Steelers duo COMBINED, yet they are both in the HOF. Monk's day will come.
rypper11 10-21-2007, 01:15 PM 3rd and 8 who do you throw to? On the all-time list, Jerry Rice then Art Monk.
70Chip 10-21-2007, 10:46 PM It would be fascinating to know what grand revelation has caused this shift.
SFREDSKIN 10-21-2007, 10:51 PM 3rd and 8 who do you throw to? Jerry Rice then Art Monk. WRONG!!!! ART MONK, to me is the best ever!!!!!!!!! Rice padded his number against the Falcons,Saints and Rams twice a year. Art earned his numbers against the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, much better teams in the 80's era.
Redskin 10-21-2007, 10:59 PM its his name, not cool enough to be in the hall of fame
SouperMeister 10-21-2007, 11:02 PM WRONG!!!! ART MONK, to me is the best ever!!!!!!!!! Rice padded his number against the Falcons,Saints and Rams twice a year. Art earned his numbers against the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, much better teams in the 80's era.That's a great point that I'm sure HOF voters don't consider. The Belichick coached Giants D, and the Buddy Ryan coached Eagles D were arguably the two best defenses in the 80's with the exception of the '85 Bears.
SFREDSKIN 10-21-2007, 11:16 PM [QUOTE= with the exception of the '85 Bears.[/QUOTE] I guess that 85 Bear D lasted into 87 when we beat them.
SkinDogg 10-21-2007, 11:55 PM WHEN Art Monk is inducted to the Hall of Fame, I say, every man woman and child who has ever cheered for this man should make plans to be in Canton. Fly, carpool, endure Greyhound, whatever. Motels are dirt cheap. I don't know how it all works at the HOF, and how much access is allowed for fans, but when Art steps up to the podium, it would be good to send our love, RFK style.
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