Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...

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skinsguy
10-15-2007, 08:50 PM
It's obvious that the dropped passes have been the worst thing for us. That and fumbling. The second thing is injuries on the offensive line. When our backups to our backups are getting hurt, then how do you expect to get any consistent running lanes or pass protection? For crying out loud, is Chris Samuels the only starter left on the line? (Although I'm hoping CR is back at Center next week.)

As far as playcalling is concerned, it's been ok this year. It's funny how the misinformed continue to blame Joe Gibbs when Al Saunders is the one who calls the plays. So, if playcalling was the real issue, then one would have issues with Al Saunders and not Joe Gibbs. Besides, saying that conservatism is a staple in Joe Gibbs' offense obviously wasn't around when we were winning championships, but I digress.

MTRedskinsFan
10-16-2007, 01:01 AM
Fighting through injuries is what separates great teams from average teams and average teams from shit teams. When Colts or Pats have guys out someone steps up and literally has the best game of their career up to that pt. When a Redskin gets injured the backup typically looks out of place and is unable to deliver (Thrash and lineman who were real starters elsewhere, like Kendell, are the exceptions). Makes you wonder if the coaching staff works much w/ the backups. I had two highs chool coaches notorius for this and it always came around to bite us in the ass somewhere in the season.

SmootSmack
10-16-2007, 01:07 AM
Fighting through injuries is what separates great teams from average teams and average teams from shit teams. When Colts or Pats have guys out someone steps up and literally has the best game of their career up to that pt. When a Redskin gets injured the backup typically looks out of place and is unable to deliver (Thrash and lineman who were real starters elsewhere, like Kendell, are the exceptions). Makes you wonder if the coaching staff works much w/ the backups. I had two highs chool coaches notorius for this and it always came around to bite us in the ass somewhere in the season.

Can you give some examples of backups typically looking out of place this year?

Sean Taylor
10-16-2007, 01:10 AM
Didn't we start at the 50 yard line (thanks to Rock's great return) when Moss fumbled and CW ran it back for the deciding TD? Short field didn't help us much there

It doesn't help that you know more about why we lost. All it does is prove that some people don't know. Still a loss.

SmootSmack
10-16-2007, 01:15 AM
It doesn't help that you know more about why we lost. All it does is prove that some people don't know. Still a loss.

What? I don't follow

MTRedskinsFan
10-16-2007, 01:23 AM
Can you give some examples of backups typically looking out of place this year?

1. Brandon Lloyd is officially a backup, right? He looks like a rookie playing for the league minimum every time he sets foot on the field.

2. Wade and Fabini came in looking totally disjointed on the right side and we still don't have a run game (decent at pass protection).

3. The line utterly collapsed when Pucillo came in at center.

There are a lot of bright spots on D, but Godfrey is a proven vet (a guy any team could count on to come in and perform). So, GW did his job. WE HAVE NO OFFENSIVE CONSISTENCY - INJURIES OR NO F'ING INJURIES (NEW YORK), AND YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO BE A PLAYOFF TEAM W/O BEING CONSISTENT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

But the real story here isn't the Redskins, it's how teams serous about winning rise to the occasion no matter what. Maroney goes out for NE and Morris comes in w/o missing a beat for 100 yd rushing games. Colts lose the the best blind-side tackle in the league to retirement and still go undefeated because they find and cultivate the talent to succeed. If Samuels goes out we get Stephen Heyer (a guy who almost cost our one consistent contributor on offense (Campbell) a whole fucking season because of poor execution.

Is the contrast clear enough? We don't have IT. We can, but it will take new management to get us their and we can't lose the few bright spots on offense in the meantime.

JWsleep
10-16-2007, 01:26 AM
I put dropped passes, but as a stand for for "lack of execution." Been getting within in inches of breaking things open, but then failing to hit it. Fingertip close, in lots of cases.

And we're still at 3-2.

Sean Taylor
10-16-2007, 01:26 AM
What? I don't follow

You call people out for not knowing what is going on with the Skins or game. Like field position or back-ups out of place.

It was obvious that field position wasn't the reason for our troubles or back-ups being out of place was not the reason. What is the point of calling out dumb posters?

They have no impact.

I'm sure its easy to get frustrated running the site as a MOD but fans are fans. Most don't know anything about why we win or lose.

Why in your opinion did the Skins lose to the Packers? I will tell you my opinion. Because we didn't score more points than them..........

SmootSmack
10-16-2007, 01:29 AM
1. Brandon Lloyd is officially a backup, right? He looks like a rookie playing for the league minimum every time he sets foot on the field.

2. Wade and Fabini came in looking totally disjointed on the right side and we still don't have a run game (decent at pass protection).

3. The line utterly collapsed when Pucillo came in at center.

There are a lot of bright spots on D, but Godfrey is a proven vet (a guy any team could count on to come in and perform). So, GW did his job. WE HAVE NO OFFENSIVE CONSISTENCY - INJURIES OR NO F'ING INJURIES (NEW YORK), AND YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO BE A PLAYOFF TEAM W/O BEING CONSISTENT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

But the real story here isn't the Redskins, it's how teams serous about winning rise to the occasion no matter what. Maroney goes out for NE and Morris comes in w/o missing a beat for 100 yd rushing games. Colts lose the the best blind-side tackle in the league to retirement and still go undefeated because they find and cultivate the talent to succeed. If Samuels goes out we get Stephen Heyer (a guy who almost cost our one consistent contributor on offense (Campbell) a whole fucking season because of poor execution.

Is the contrast clear enough? We don't have IT. We can, but it will take new management to get us their and we can't lose the few bright spots on offense in the meantime.

I guess I didn't really think of Lloyd in your example. I thought more along the lines of how well Heyer stepped in week one, Kendall all season long, Demetric Evans, Godfrey, and Chris Wilson at various points in the season, Todd Wade for Jansen.

SmootSmack
10-16-2007, 01:34 AM
You call people out for not knowing what is going on with the Skins or game. Like field position or back-ups out of place.

It was obvious that field position wasn't the reason for our troubles or back-ups being out of place was not the reason. What is the point of calling out dumb posters?

They have no impact.

I'm sure its easy to get frustrated running the site as a MOD but fans are fans. Most don't know anything about why we win or lose.

Why in your opinion did the Skins lose to the Packers? I will tell you my opinion. Because we didn't score more points than them..........

You've totally lost me. Who was I calling out? You think I was trying to call out The Zimmermans? I wasn't. Not at all.

I think we lost for two main reasons 1.) We didn't catch the ball, 2.) We shouldn't even have been throwing the ball in the first place. I believe we had a 2:1 pass to run ratio. In conditions such as yesterday Portis and Betts each should have had 15-20 carries.

I'm not calling anyone out.

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