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warriorzpath 10-15-2007, 03:17 PM Blaming the coaches is an easy cop out.
I agree. On offense, there were mistakes that were made by both the players and coaches. The players' mistakes cost the redskins the packers game. But even if the players cost the game, all of the mistakes need to be identified and corrected. Luckily for the redskins, there are mistakes and not entire schemes that need to be revamped or players that need to be changed (hopefully the oline gets healthy).
There usually is a fine line between winning and losing in games. That's why it's important to not give a game away (ala giants and packers). Because if you are on the losing side of the fine line too often, it can snowball - and "too often" sometimes may mean 1 or 2 losses in the nfl.
SmootSmack 10-15-2007, 03:18 PM We had dropped passes in the Dolphins game as well. Didn't have Moss have three drops in that game? The receivers are getting open and not making the catch. If you're open but don't catch the ball, that's not coaching.
GTripp0012 10-15-2007, 03:20 PM Yeah, I wasn't saying that every play, every down is a problem. But when a head coach and offensive coordinator can't get on the same page repeatedly on crucial 3rd and 4th downs (this has been a problem going back to early last season), then to me that makes play calling a huge issue. I was screaming at the TV when Gibbs sat there with a confused look on his face and didn't call a timeout as the clock ticked down to the two minute warning. I just don't know if this offense will ever get it together. We're averaging 16.75 pts a game against teams not named the Lions. That's awful. We're 53 regular season games into Gibbs 2.0. I'm so over the excuses.Well, the main culprit for the offenses' struggles has been the run blocking. It was BADLY overrated last year, and it's just simply been hurt this year. We still lack a TE who is good enough to play every down and who can block better than Cooley. Sellers helps, but we need Sellers and Cooley in to run the ball, and that isn't good.
For the first time last week, the pass pro was awful. Campbell was setting up 12 yards deep like every play and this was likely contributing to the dropped passes. You don't practice throwing curl routes 30 yards in the air during practice, thus all the drops. Problem is that it's hard to blame Campbell for that because he was simply trying to do his job. Samuels had a good game. No one else did on that line.
While Saunders usually is ignorant of the down and distance, that COULD be an advantage if we had the talent on offense to execute the play he calls. Now with all the guys on the offensive line out, his conveluted play calling is a huge disadvantage. He's totally unpredictable all the time, and that means our 3rd down offense will also be totally unpredictable, even when the stats say we should pick up the first 80% of the time.
Give Gibbs some credit for going for it on 4th and 1 though, that was in most cases the right move. Maybe he should have called the play while he's was at it.
GTripp0012 10-15-2007, 03:25 PM Still: crazy 30 yard curl routes or not, Campbell is still hitting receivers in the hands. NFL receivers. Catch the ball.
GMScud 10-15-2007, 03:28 PM Well, the main culprit for the offenses' struggles has been the run blocking. It was BADLY overrated last year, and it's just simply been hurt this year. We still lack a TE who is good enough to play every down and who can block better than Cooley. Sellers helps, but we need Sellers and Cooley in to run the ball, and that isn't good.
For the first time last week, the pass pro was awful. Campbell was setting up 12 yards deep like every play and this was likely contributing to the dropped passes. You don't practice throwing curl routes 30 yards in the air during practice, thus all the drops. Problem is that it's hard to blame Campbell for that because he was simply trying to do his job. Samuels had a good game. No one else did on that line.
While Saunders usually is ignorant of the down and distance, that COULD be an advantage if we had the talent on offense to execute the play he calls. Now with all the guys on the offensive line out, his conveluted play calling is a huge disadvantage. He's totally unpredictable all the time, and that means our 3rd down offense will also be totally unpredictable, even when the stats say we should pick up the first 80% of the time.
Give Gibbs some credit for going for it on 4th and 1 though, that was in most cases the right move. Maybe he should have called the play while he's was at it.
I think people are missing what I'm saying here. I think our problem is a combination of the miscues- i.e. drops, and coaching confusions/play calling. Look, even with Thomas and Jansen out, there are too many coaches and playmakers on this team to only average 17-20 points a game.
I think with the rash of injuries and 2 VERY tough losses in our last 3 games, coaching is going to be VITAL for the rest of the year. How will they adapt? Can they can keep the chemistry together in the locker room?
Hey Tripp, with the O-line in shambles, do you think we'll start throwing to set up the run instead of running to set up the pass? We've already been limited to running only to the left side. Now what?
Cowell 10-15-2007, 04:05 PM Well, up until yesterday I thought our offensive line was doing decent given all the injuries they have sustained. That being said the clock management has been terrible. Above it all though, playcalling. Good coaches run plays that give us a chance to win. They didn't do that in the Giants game and they tried to sit on a very small lead in the Eagles game. Honestly though all those three are a big contributing factor to our losing.
GMScud 10-15-2007, 04:15 PM Well, up until yesterday I thought our offensive line was doing decent given all the injuries they have sustained. That being said the clock management has been terrible. Above it all though, playcalling. Good coaches run plays that give us a chance to win. They didn't do that in the Giants game and they tried to sit on a very small lead in the Eagles game. Honestly though all those three are a big contributing factor to our losing.
Yeah, the sitting on a small lead thing drives me UP THE WALL. That's standard Gibbs though.
CrazyCanuck 10-15-2007, 04:27 PM I'll say so far it's been the dropped passes. But the O-line is definitely the biggest concern going forward.
DynamiteRave 10-15-2007, 05:20 PM I think dropped passes was the biggest concern of the GB game. It hasn't really been any kind of consistent worry. Except with Moss, I think everyone else has done a fair job of not getting a consistent case of the butterfingers. I'm gonna chalk up yesterdays drops to the elements. But even Brian Mitchell said, you get paid to go out there and catch the ball under any circumstance. There really is no excuse.
After yesterdays game though the clock management is beginning to worry me. But Gibbs has always been known for having good command of the playclock and such so, I assume he really does know what hes doing.
I can't complain about the play calling after the bye. They have really let JC open things up and other than those stupid rinkydink plays (The end around + the end around fake) I think they've been doing a pretty good job. If only we could execute the plays.
I think the O-Line is worrying me the most. With practically the entire starting squad out and Rabach and Wade playing through groin injuries (most likely) our O-Line is weak. And all that depth we tried to bring in during the offseason is gone as well. (With Heyer and Lefotu. Wade starting). It's a bit of a concern. We all saw how the pass blocking broke down on the last 2 pass plays of the game. JC might as well have been running around out there without any protection.
I just hope that's not how it's going to be for the rest of the season.
Skinsfan1967 10-15-2007, 05:21 PM Moss could'nt catch a cold yesterday.
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