Public enemy #1 for the Skins this year has been...

agreed, scoring on long epic 80 yard drives is not necessary in todays NFL...we need to be starting on a shorter field= less chance of screwing up.....need to cause more TO's favre was trying to lose the game yesterday

I'm amazed that I am only the 4th person to vote for play calling as public enemy #1. We could be 5-0 easily despite the O-line injuries if Saunders and the rest of the staff could remove their head from their ass in the 2nd half. Some of play calling has been downright comical. Too many cooks in the kitchen, and I think it's starting to rear it's ugly head.

Dropped balls. That includes fumbles. Portis is making a habit out of fumbling the football and it has to stop. I have noticed in past years that it seems like he fumbles in bunches and then has long streaks of not coughing it up. Lets all hope he gets that shit out of his system. And for the drops, Moss has been doing that since week 1 and its becoming a problem. He is not the only one who drops passes so I dont want it to seem like I am calling him out but it is magnified by his status as a "playmaker".

I say we do call out Moss. He's having a terrible, injury-filled season. The question is, Was his great year in 2005 a fluke?

I say we do call out Moss. He's having a terrible, injury-filled season. The question is, Was his great year in 2005 a fluke?

I think Moss' great season in 2005 was absolutely a fluke. He's been hobbled by groin and hamstring issues his entire career dating back to his days at the U. It showed all of last year and so far this year. He's super fast and can change a game with one play, but in terms of staying healthy and consistency, 2005 was in fact a fluke. I'd rather have Coles frankly. At least he plays every game and makes clutch catches. Plus he can go over the middle and he's tough as nails. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Moss, and when he's clicking he's really fun to watch, but it just hasn't happened since '05. Coles in the meantime is quietly putting together a nice year on an extremely offensively-challenged Jets team...

agreed, scoring on long epic 80 yard drives is not necessary in todays NFL...we need to be starting on a shorter field= less chance of screwing up.....need to cause more TO's favre was trying to lose the game yesterday

Didn't we start at the 50 yard line (thanks to Rock's great return) when Moss fumbled and CW ran it back for the deciding TD? Short field didn't help us much there

I'm amazed that I am only the 4th person to vote for play calling as public enemy #1. We could be 5-0 easily despite the O-line injuries if Saunders and the rest of the staff could remove their head from their ass in the 2nd half. Some of play calling has been downright comical. Too many cooks in the kitchen, and I think it's starting to rear it's ugly head.The plays themselves aren't the problem, excluding some typical "what the f was that Al" 3rd and short play calling. Saunders on the whole does a good job mixing it up and keeping the defense on it's heels throughout the game. His situational play calling is utter shit, but again, this makes only about one iota of difference in the outcome of the game.

Course, the situational play calling wouldn't look nearly as bad in the short run if 1) we could block for the runner, or 2) the quarterback could hit an open receiver 7 yards away.

I am worried about how Saunders and Gibbs never seem to be able to be on the same page regarding 3rd vs 4th down calls. Now, this isn't a problem at all, only because Al doesn't usually consider down and distance when picking his play. But Gibbs is making the decision whether or not to go for it on 4th AFTER Saunders has called in the 3rd down play. On 99% of teams, this would really hurt the offenses' chance of converting. But again, Saunders already makes awful situational calls, so in this case it doesn't matter.

To me, the only way to rectify this is for Gibbs to call both the 3rd and 4th down play on a situation where the clock is an issue.

I don't think Coaches can do a whole lot to help their team out, and our coaches certainly are not. I guess the playcalling being generally unpredictable balances out the predictably awful short yardage playcalling so we really don't have a big disadvantage in the coaching staff relative to other teams.

Anyway, while the coaches do a lot of frustrating moves in-game, they are pretty much about par for the league. There are a lot of bad coaches in this league, and neither Gibbs, nor Saunders, nor Williams is a bad coach at all. It's just that I know theres a lot of things they could be doing better, and it's finally starting to frustrate me a bit.

Didn't we start at the 50 yard line (thanks to Rock's great return) when Moss fumbled and CW ran it back for the deciding TD? Short field didn't help us much there

True True.....think we started on like the 35....but we did cost ourselves at least 100 yards of field position by not picking off some of those gimme's and failing to recover fumbles. With a wet field and a shaky run game....we really really needed those plays

I'm amazed that I am only the 4th person to vote for play calling as public enemy #1. We could be 5-0 easily despite the O-line injuries if Saunders and the rest of the staff could remove their head from their ass in the 2nd half. Some of play calling has been downright comical. Too many cooks in the kitchen, and I think it's starting to rear it's ugly head.

I didn't see the coaches out there dropping balls or fumbling yesterday. Take away those drops and turnovers and we win that game easy.

Blaming the coaches is an easy cop out.

The plays themselves aren't the problem, excluding some typical "what the f was that Al" 3rd and short play calling. Saunders on the whole does a good job mixing it up and keeping the defense on it's heels throughout the game. His situational play calling is utter shit, but again, this makes only about one iota of difference in the outcome of the game.

Course, the situational play calling wouldn't look nearly as bad in the short run if 1) we could block for the runner, or 2) the quarterback could hit an open receiver 7 yards away.

I am worried about how Saunders and Gibbs never seem to be able to be on the same page regarding 3rd vs 4th down calls. Now, this isn't a problem at all, only because Al doesn't usually consider down and distance when picking his play. But Gibbs is making the decision whether or not to go for it on 4th AFTER Saunders has called in the 3rd down play. On 99% of teams, this would really hurt the offenses' chance of converting. But again, Saunders already makes awful situational calls, so in this case it doesn't matter.

To me, the only way to rectify this is for Gibbs to call both the 3rd and 4th down play on a situation where the clock is an issue.

I don't think Coaches can do a whole lot to help their team out, and our coaches certainly are not. I guess the playcalling being generally unpredictable balances out the predictably awful short yardage playcalling so we really don't have a big disadvantage in the coaching staff relative to other teams.

Anyway, while the coaches do a lot of frustrating moves in-game, they are pretty much about par for the league. There are a lot of bad coaches in this league, and neither Gibbs, nor Saunders, nor Williams is a bad coach at all. It's just that I know theres a lot of things they could be doing better, and it's finally starting to frustrate me a bit.

Yeah, I wasn't saying that every play, every down is a problem. But when a head coach and offensive coordinator can't get on the same page repeatedly on crucial 3rd and 4th downs (this has been a problem going back to early last season), then to me that makes play calling a huge issue. I was screaming at the TV when Gibbs sat there with a confused look on his face and didn't call a timeout as the clock ticked down to the two minute warning. I just don't know if this offense will ever get it together. We're averaging 16.75 pts a game against teams not named the Lions. That's awful. We're 53 regular season games into Gibbs 2.0. I'm so over the excuses.

I didn't see the coaches out there dropping balls or fumbling yesterday. Take away those drops and turnovers and we win that game easy.

Blaming the coaches is an easy cop out.

See my post below. Play calling isn't the only reason, but it ain't helping either.

Of course yesterday the main reason for the loss was drops/turnovers, but I'm talking about overall. How about not being able to get a first down until very late in the 2nd half in the Giants game? That's a defense that adjusted well to us, and we failed to readjust. How about scoring a measley 16 points at home against a miserable Dolphins defense that leaks like a sive? Coaching...