What is wrong with Santana Moss? (merged)

Oh he definitely isn't getting cut... But he definitely cost us this game. BIG TIME. He didn't seem like he even gave a crap about it either.


Moss was on post game (Comcast) with B. Mitch and Ray Brown- seemed genuinely contrite about the game he had today. I was actually suprised that he even played today because of that groin injury that's been troubling him the last few weeks. It may have been better had he not played at all. His injury problems started back in the spring during OTA's (no contact) and I mentioned then that I was concerned about his seemingly history of injury problems. Groin injuries can be lasting if you're not careful, I just don't think he's completely healthy, and his play today was indicative of that fact.

Man I really really really want to give Santana the benifit of the doubt...but the guy hasent played well all season. He has made a couple of nice catches but overall, he just isnt the player he has been the past couple years up to this point.

I mean Moss is one of my favorite players, hell his was the jersey I choose to wear for the game today....but man I've never seen one single player cost us a game the way he did today. Two plays just stick out to me, the fumble (obviously)...and when he had the chance to turn things around and make a big play with that catch, he drops it. That is a minimum of 3 points for us and ties us at 17......I really hope he has a good game next week because he's a guy I really like cheering for, but damn he needs to pick it upMoss will bounce back. He was a stand-up guy during postgame interviews. I believe that his performance today will be motivation to make plays for his teammates going forward. I still say that the reverse was a LOUSY call on a wet field.

I think Moss and Rogers secretly switched jerseys during the bye week.

Jokes over, switch back please!

Moss will be fine. He need to heal, and his hands will be back.


I'm concerned about 1/1000th as much about Moss than I am about our o-line.

Agreed that the INT should've been ruled a completion to ARE for simultaneous posession with the defender.

I'm a little concerned that unless Campbell learns to put more touch on deep balls, he will continue to miss wide open opportunities. Elite QBs do not miss the throw that Lloyd couldn't quite pull in. Campbell also missed Cooley on a fairly deep throw in the first half. Until he starts making those type of plays with more consistency, I don't believe you can characterize Campbell as a great deep passer. Hopefully the coaches are addressing his touch on deeper throws in practice. Of course the deep throw to Moss was pretty damn solid, and that could have turned the game in the Skins favor.

Yeah JC misses some but he also puts some right on the money that guys are dropping. I would say JC played well enough for us to easily win this game. Problem is when we loose everyone tends to nit pick.

Moss will be fine. He need to heal, and his hands will be back.


I'm concerned about 1/1000th as much about Moss than I am about our o-line.Totally agree on the O-line. Gibbs may have to move away from his total commitment to establish the run when the O-line is in shambles. As for the passing attack, the fact that Cooley was fully utilized underneath should only open up more plays downfield. Frankly, with the nice route that Lloyd ran on that deep ball, I hope he gets some chances moving forward. Working him back into the rotation will help keep ARE and Moss fresh, and perhaps help all of them to perform that much better as a unit.

Count me in the "doubting Santana" category, but I'd love to eat those words. He hasn't looked like the same guy since he hurt himself last year.

Moss will be fine. I agree with some of the others that the rain cause a huge problem for Moss. Everytime I see it raining I just know we are screwed. In the past, the Skins have been horrible on the rainy games that I can remember while Gibbs has been coach. The denver game in 2005 and I believe the playoff game against Seattle. Just like today, they dominated in each of the games but just cant seem to completely adjust to the hostile terrain and lose in the end.

My question is what the team did to adjust to the slippery ball and field. The packers showed that it effected their team, but were able to adjust to the conditions. What the hell did we do? From the looks nothing. We were slipping all over the field till the last snap of the game. We need this win damn it! :madani:

I think the field condition got into Moss' head. If you are coming back from a groin/hamstring injury, the last thing you want to do is play on a sloppy field. You saw Heyer slip and do the splits causing a serious injury. Randle El had a drop or two. I think Moss was thinking about his next cut before he caught the ball. Unfortunate but anyone who's had an injury to his legs knows that the next time you go out and try to play ball, it's in your head. hopefully with a full week of practice he will build confidence in himself.


My one problem with moss today, He was quoted as saying he took himself out of the game because he didn't want to continue to hurt the team. He need to fight through his problems. Even as a decoy, he has value to the offense. He gave up...

He was quoted as saying he took himself out of the game because he didn't want to continue to hurt the team. He need to fight through his problems. Even as a decoy, he has value to the offense. He gave up...

If he said that, that's total BS. What kind of a message does that send to the rest of the team? That you aren't willing to go to battle with them because your pu$$y hurts? BS.