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AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 10-11-2007, 07:37 PM Alvin - what did he say about the Redskins run? - just curious
I believe it was Carter that said something to the effect that he'd dress up like a Redskin if they made the playoffs right? I can't remember exactly...we took a lot of crap that year
SFREDSKIN 10-11-2007, 09:37 PM First off, Carter is a Redskins hater. Second, the Pro-bowl voting is a popularity contest. If these idiots knew what Monk did, he be a shoe in, just ask the defensive coaches he played against who made them shit their pants? Monk might not have made the highlight for acrobatic catches, but the man always made the key first down catch or the tough catch down the middle. You don't accumulate 940 receptions by sitting on your ass, I'm sick of all the excuses they make to keep him out. FUCK ALL THOSE SO CALLED EXPERTS!!!
JWsleep 10-11-2007, 10:59 PM Such a complete load of BS--stats, wins, character, impact, records. Carter is obviously trying to get in himself by starting a smear campaign. It's exactly the type of think MONK WOULD NEVER DO! I mean, you can't even imagine Monk doing something like that. It's a sad state of affairs where a whinny punk like Carter (how many rings you got, biatch?) might get in before Monk precisely BECAUSE he pulled this kind of shit.
Weak. The hall's a joke without Monk, and a bigger joke if Carter goes in first.
JWsleep 10-11-2007, 11:01 PM And also playing him off Clark, like you can only take one skin, so it's Clark. How about two? Here's an idea: Monk and Clark, and leave Carter out, if we're trying to save space.
Redskins247 10-11-2007, 11:11 PM Clark's just mad because the Vikings still say Moss is the best receiver they've ever had! He completely overshadowed Carter as soon as he arrived and he's never gotten past that!
skinsfan69 10-11-2007, 11:14 PM Monk was the leading WR of all time when he retired in an era where the passing game was not as revolutionized (sp?) as it is today. That means he caught more balls than anyone in the history of the freakin NFL. I believe that he is still in the top 5 today. End of discussion.
SFREDSKIN 10-11-2007, 11:16 PM Ok so Carter was know for acrobatic catches, how many rings does he have? Since when did the "I look good making a catch" over "I made the key catches that propelled my team to the playoffs and superbowl" become the motto for making it to the HOF. Call me crazy or an idiot but I'll take Monk over Jerry Rice anyday. Monk didn't pad his stats playing the Falcons, Saints and Rams twice a year (all shitty teams during the 80's) Monk Earned his receptions against the Giants (2 SB during the 80's) Cowboys (despite being crappy during the 80's they were always tough) Eagles (in the playoffs quite a bit during the 80's). Enough said this is all like the "Miss Universe contest".
jsarno 10-12-2007, 01:42 AM Monk was the leading WR of all time when he retired in an era where the passing game was not as revolutionized (sp?) as it is today. That means he caught more balls than anyone in the history of the freakin NFL. I believe that he is still in the top 5 today. End of discussion.
Really, this is one of the best arguments...cause if Monk doesn't make it, then why should ANY wr before him be allowed to go in...or stay in?
To me, there are a lot of players that aer classless and in the hall of fame. Not that I disagree with it, but a person that oozes class should have more consideration. That should be a factor if you ask me.
I'm still pretty disgusted that Irvin made it over Monk. Irvin took drugs, and violated the NFL...gave the NFL a black eye. How do we know he wasn't high every time he played? Monk was a class act and went about his business, and sacrificed himself for the benefit of the team, and he's being punished for it. Quite a shame.
I have been to Cooperstown, and I have been to the Basketball HOF, I have also been to the Hockey HOF, but I will not go to Canton until Monk is put in. If classy, record breaking, honorable players can't make it in, then I don't want to go in either.
BrunellMVP? 10-12-2007, 08:55 AM pro bowls are like high school elections...nothing more than popularity contests (i'm not sure it was like that back when monk played- but he was quiet and unassuming...not exactly big man on campus- even if he was a star).
BleedBurgundy 10-12-2007, 09:07 AM I remember being 11 years old, watching the superbowl in '91. To this day, I can still remember clearly hearing the announcer (dierdorf?) say, "that was Art Monk's drive." He was commenting on a drive where basically every play was a pass to Monk, moving the ball methodically down the field. (pardon any errors here I'm going from 16 year old memories) Why is it that Hall of Fame voters don't remember that as a signature play/series for Art Monk. Maybe it wasn't flashy but it made enough of an impression on my young mind to be clearly recalled 16 years later. Sounds like a signature to me...
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