How to finish a game..

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jsarno
10-03-2007, 01:15 AM
The point is, predictable playcalling isn't necessarily bad -- especially when it's working.
Again folks, it's the execution. NOT the playcalling.

Again, it was without a doubt the playcalling.
You do not stick with what DOES NOT WORK!!!! This is football 101. If they have your number, you try something new. 4 straight 3 and outs and almost all were runs means your playcalling sucks. Sure the players need to execute better...shit if every player executed all the time, we'd score on every play, but you have to live in the real world and understand that can't happen, so you choose plays that have statistically a better advantage of being successful. You don't do the same damn thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over when it doesn't freakin work.

jsarno
10-03-2007, 01:18 AM
35-10 is a HUGE difference than 17-3, 17-10 and 17-17.. Are you truly going to cite 'execution' and not philosophy when we've lost 11 games with a 2nd half lead and 12 games with a lead of 11 points or more since Gibbs has returned? If that's execution then that makes me REALLY question what the players are getting coached on to squander that many games..


I love it when someone uses stats to prove a point, and those figures speak volumes. So much so that all arguments should cease. If you were a debator in high school / college, I'd call you the winner.

SouperMeister
10-03-2007, 09:18 AM
Gibbs had better figure out the strength of the 2007 Redskins soon or we will see more blown leads. I question whether they can just salt games away with the running game when they're down 2 offensive linemen this early in the season. Opposing run defenses can load up to one side since Gibbs doesn't trust the right side of the OL. Somebody made the great point in an earlier thread that Gibbs adjusted from his "Air Coryell" philosophy after starting his first stint 0-5. He essentially played to the strength of his personnel. I won't pretend to know what that is with this team, but as head coach, it's Gibbs's responsibility to find the team's identity.

firstdown
10-03-2007, 09:55 AM
Again, it was without a doubt the playcalling.
You do not stick with what DOES NOT WORK!!!! This is football 101. If they have your number, you try something new. 4 straight 3 and outs and almost all were runs means your playcalling sucks. Sure the players need to execute better...shit if every player executed all the time, we'd score on every play, but you have to live in the real world and understand that can't happen, so you choose plays that have statistically a better advantage of being successful. You don't do the same damn thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over when it doesn't freakin work.
I'd say it was a mixed about 1/2 & 1/2 pass/run and if you look at the plays we had and the passes completed from the middle of the 2nd on most if not all of JC passes were short dump off plays. The problem I saw in the 2nd half was not the play calling but the fact (which no one seems to mention) is that JC just did not hit our open WR's down the field. I have said this several times and while at the game I saw 7 or more pass plays where we had guys wide open and JC just dumped it off. My wife even noticed our WR's which were wide open and it was not a case for most of them were JC had too much preasure on him. I even had my neighbor comment on how it seemed the JC was starring down WR's which would explain the incomplete passes, dumping it off, and missing the open man. Maybe our problem in the 2nd half was not the play calling but a young QB which we have to expect to have games like that. He completed less than half of his throws in that game.

irish
10-03-2007, 09:58 AM
Good article in today's Post about how terrible the Skins are at finishing games under Gibbs 2.0.

hurrykaine
10-03-2007, 11:25 AM
Good article in today's Post about how terrible the Skins are at finishing games under Gibbs 2.0.

Yes..on par with the Oaklands and Houstons when it comes to losing games despite a half time lead. Pitiful. Nice article.

GTripp0012
10-03-2007, 11:34 AM
I love it when someone uses stats to prove a point, and those figures speak volumes. So much so that all arguments should cease. If you were a debator in high school / college, I'd call you the winner.Sorry we have a tendency to lead competant teams at half.

I'll get Gibbs on the horn and tell him to mail it in in the first so we don't have to worry about giving up a lead.

MTK
10-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Considering two of the past three seasons have resulted in losing records, I don't think this stat is very surprising. Bad teams will find ways to lose games.

SouperMeister
10-03-2007, 11:44 AM
Yes..on par with the Oaklands and Houstons when it comes to losing games despite a half time lead. Pitiful. Nice article.Gibbs seems a little dismissive by saying that each season is a new year, even though losing leads has been a recurring theme since his return. I find it astounding that Gibbs 1.0 was 47-3 at home when holding a halftime lead, while Gibbs 2.0 is 9-7 in similar situations, including 4 straight losses. Great article by JLC.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR
10-03-2007, 06:14 PM
we cant do what the pats or cowboys do by throwing the ball with the lead. we might make a mistake and lose the game. Thats the reason we won the game against NY> What we lost by playing conservative you have to be kidding,

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