Norvel...Why Has Thou Stunk-Up Joint?

The most surprising thing to me is how poorly Phillip Rivers has played. I thought Norv would at least be able to maximize his potential. If he can't even get Rivers going then what is Norv "the QB guru" Turner good for? Its gonna get ugly in SD pretty quickly. Losing to the Chiefs at home might just bring the whole house down.

As far as working with Phillip Rivers, I think you need to give him more than four weeks to make big strides. I think their offense is a bit down, but their defense is the big problem. They are getting torched.

Rivers is still a young QB and Marty ball really kept him handcuffed for the most part last year, and probably wisely so.

I think the Chargers will get on track eventually but it better be soon for their sake.

It seems like a lot of the younger QBs are coming back down to earth this year. Rivers, Alex Smith, Leinart...

yeah norv was a rediculous choice, but marty would be tough to be around... he's kind of a douchebag.

they have the talent, but bringing in norv was stupid. There were many much better coaches they couldve gone after... including jim mora jr, who I think wouldve fit there much better...

Are you kidding me?? Mora Jr. can't keep his mouth shut and he'd be shopping himself for another gig if he failed (and he would) to produce after a season or two. Plus, he's always got some players jock to sniff and can't seem to put the whole team's interests ahead of his "star" players (i.e.-Michael Vick).

So now the question is, where does Marty coach next?

So now the question is, where does Marty coach next?

GIANTS??? although if they keep playing like they did last night...maybe ole tommy keeps his job for 1 more year...haha

Sometimes in the NFL (and in all sports) teams just don't play to the same level as they did the previous year. For what ever reason. They loose their edge. Humans are not machines. 14-2 is really really tough to do in the NFL. You have to be really good but you also have to have the ball bounce your way. It looks like the running game is sputtering and the passing came can't pick up the slack although today LT went off. They have a young QB who is turning it over and some WR's that are very questionable. Plus they made a bad mistake and let go of Donnie Edwards. Then you fire Marty and you loose both coordinators. Chargers had nowhere to go but down.Great post.

Look, Norv is not a good coach, and he's not going to do his team any favors strategically. But if his offenses were able to overcome his lack of motivation (which they clearly did), then theres no way we can blame him for what's happening to his defense or offensive line. Losing his coordinator contributed, but this defensive collapse was predictable by statistical formula (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/09/05/ramblings/dvoa-rankings/5437/) (notice the date).

Now should Norv collect some blame for what's happening on the offensive end? Some, yes for sure. But I believe that given time, Rivers is going to get very hot and this team will win 8-9 games this year, which isn't too bad by any standard (also not too good by any standard).

People like to credit Norv for natural player progression, and blame him for natural unit regression, even though he likely has little to do with neither.

He just happens to be an uninspired coach trying to make a living. He is not going to hurt or help his teams win or lose. Thus, it's up to the team leaders to get this ship righted in SD.

Rivers is still a young QB and Marty ball really kept him handcuffed for the most part last year, and probably wisely so.

I think the Chargers will get on track eventually but it better be soon for their sake.

An argument for conservative play-calling with a young QB? Just thinking... ;)

Is anyone really surprised??

I mean c'mon... It's NORV!!

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Amen.

This is the guy who was deemed "An offensive Genius" for winning with a team comprised of Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith and Michael Irving.

It doesn't take a genius to win with that talent.

It takes a genius to win with a Mark Rypien.

Norv stank up every head coaching job he's had. He's 3 for 3 now.

I know you can't replicate 14-2, but you shouldn't fall so fast.

J-Dawg