"Offensive" Analysis

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Paintrain
09-25-2007, 11:16 AM
2007-0 games

2006-3 games

2005-6 games

2004-2 games

This is is the number of times over the past 3+ seasons that we have scored 24 or more points in a game, the benchmark for a quality winning offensive team. 21.5% of the games we've played in the past 4 years we've accomplished that benchmark. Much of our consternation the past couple of days about the offense still being too conservative and not producing enough points is supported by the numbers.

Currently we're 21st in scoring (17.7 ppg), 17th in total offense.. Last year we were 20th in scoring (19.2 ppg), 13th in total offense.. 2005, 13th in scoring (22.4 ppg), 11th in offense and 2004 31st in scoring (15.0 ppg) and 30th in offense..

Everyone knows that we're working with a QB with 10 career starts and a retooled OL but something's not right when with the talent we have on offense we have consistently had trouble scoring 3 TD a game. Last year we got all excited about the return to 'Redskins Football' at the end of the year, yet we still put up a 2-5 record down the stretch..

I'm not climbing aboard the 'Fire Gibbs/Saunders' train, but I'm continuing to wonder if JG17 (as I've nicknamed him for his penchant to get to 17 pts and take the air out of the football regardless of when it is in the game) isn't stuck too much in his ways to embrace what needs to happen to be successful in today's NFL..

MTK
09-25-2007, 11:19 AM
I think we're underestimating how much losing your starting right side of the line can hurt a team. Add in a young QB who's made 10 starts in this league and you're bound to have some growing pains. I'm not overly concerned yet.

Chief X_Phackter
09-25-2007, 11:24 AM
I don't know if it is as much being conservative, as it is learning a new offense every year except this year, and injuries, and having a green quarterback. There are still only five teams in the NFL with a better record than the Redskins. I'm not worried.

BrunellMVP?
09-25-2007, 11:31 AM
I'm not sure that we are underestimating the loss of the right side of the line...no DOUBT that is a tremendous blow- but i think the point of PainTrain's post was to establish a disturbing trend- where the skins fail to achieve the NFL benchmark for successful offenses (24 points scored). Since 2004, its been done an underwhelming 11 times...while I'm aware that Gibbs was fixing the mess left behind, and that past years don't represent a JC led team, the trend still stands, and it signals that something ain't working...
However, at 2-1...no complaints...

Record since 2004

24 wins - 29 losses (including post season)

2007 Washington Redskins 3 2 1 0 .667 -- --
2006 Washington Redskins 16 5 11 0 .313 -- --
2005 Washington Redskins 16 10 6 0 .625 1 1
2004 Washington Redskins 16 6 10 0 .375 -- --

RMSkins
09-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Let's talk about this after the Lions game, if we can't score more than 24 points against the Lions then there should be a legitimate concern, but until then I wouldn't panic to much.

Hog1
09-25-2007, 12:13 PM
I think we're underestimating how much losing your starting right side of the line can hurt a team. Add in a young QB who's made 10 starts in this league and you're bound to have some growing pains. I'm not overly concerned yet.

Totally O-line.
No team can sustain the changes we have seen through injury and attrition to the line and not have trouble. the protection has not been bad, but we obviouisly could not run on a reasonably bad D. We must have the solid ground game to keep the heat off JC

BrunellMVP?
09-25-2007, 12:20 PM
Let's talk about this after the Lions game, if we can't score more than 24 points against the Lions then there should be a legitimate concern, but until then I wouldn't panic to much.

fair enough, but the giants did give up 80 points in the 2 weeks preceding us...

Paintrain
09-25-2007, 12:21 PM
Let's talk about this after the Lions game, if we can't score more than 24 points against the Lions then there should be a legitimate concern, but until then I wouldn't panic to much.

Let's definitely talk about this after the next few games (Lions, Packers, Cardinals, Patriots) because the Lions, Cardinals and Pats are going to put 21-24 pts up, minimum so we're going to need 3-4 TD to beat each of them..

Paintrain
09-25-2007, 12:26 PM
I think we're underestimating how much losing your starting right side of the line can hurt a team. Add in a young QB who's made 10 starts in this league and you're bound to have some growing pains. I'm not overly concerned yet.

I acknowledged the O-line issues and Campbell's inexperience.. My point was more a trend supported by the numbers in JG17's current tenure as head coach.. If we didn't have talent that's one thing, but we shouldn't be scoring less, on average of the past 4 years than teams such as the Jets, Bills, Bears, Cards, Browns, Ravens, Raiders, Texans, Bucs, & Titans.

EternalEnigma21
09-25-2007, 12:48 PM
It bothers me that all of our games come down to the wire... we should've blown out the giants the other day. We were dominating them, and then we quit executing. I don't know enough to say who's to blame, but we should've broken their backs... it seems like we're too nice a team and just want to keep the games too close... it doesn't matter who the opponent is either. RARELY does our margin of victory exceed one touchdown...

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