Clinton Portis

If you really want to break down some things CP's fumble and his dropped pass (easily would have been a 1st down) really hurt this football team yesterday. I don't think he played well at all outside the crushing block on Pierce and a couple good runs. Let us not forget he also got a delay of game for spinning the damn ball after a 10 yard run...idiot!

What does Portis dropping a pass, or muffing a handoff have to do with Betts being unable to get into the endzone, or tripping over his one lineman with the game on the line? Of course those plays hurt(like several others from several other players), but the point is, Portis finds the endzone, and Betts doesn't.

Betts runs well when there's a hole. If there's no hole for him to run through, he's ineffective. Portis can at least attempt to make something out of nothing, which is a skill the Betts completely lacks.

I'll tell you why CP isn't in there on goal line carries, because Joe's inclined to call the same basic play -- run it up the gut. And remember back to '05 when we'd see CP get stuffed 3 times at the goal line on 3 attempts, and then we'd end up kicking it?

Sellers should have been in on those plays and not as a receiver, either.

If you really want to break down some things CP's fumble and his dropped pass (easily would have been a 1st down) really hurt this football team yesterday. I don't think he played well at all outside the crushing block on Pierce and a couple good runs. Let us not forget he also got a delay of game for spinning the damn ball after a 10 yard run...idiot!
that fumble lies more on Campbell then Portis. its his responsibility to make sure the hand-off hits portis in the chest

I'll tell you why CP isn't in there on goal line carries, because Joe's inclined to call the same basic play -- run it up the gut. And remember back to '05 when we'd see CP get stuffed 3 times at the goal line on 3 attempts, and then we'd end up kicking it?

Sellers should have been in on those plays and not as a receiver, either.

The problem is, neither of the final two runs were "up the gut". Both were wide, and the second looked like it was supposed to be off tackle, which is Portis' bread and butter.

But I agree that Sellers should have gotten the ball on a FB dive at least once. He's pushing 300 pounds... he can fall foward for a god damn yard.

I don't have a big problem with it. Betts has been a very productive runner for us and he has to be able to get it done in big spots just like Portis.

WRONG. You put your best players in when the game is on the line, period. The fact that Betts has been a productive runner for us in the past doesn't factor into this equation. It's nice to have a productive backup, but he shouldn't be in there in that situation. To have Portis on the sideline as much as he was is ridiculous.

The problem is, neither of the final two runs were "up the gut". Both were wide, and the second looked like it was supposed to be off tackle, which is Portis' bread and butter..

Agreed, I'm just suggesting a reason why I think Gibbs may be scared of using CP in goal-line situations. He hasn't been particularly effective in them with our playcalling and o-line.

I'm one of those guys who'd much rather have a 3rd and goal from the 8 than be on the 1 yardline with 3 chances to punch it in. We just don't know how to / have the personnel to do that anymore, and I think that just doesn't compute with Joe.

that fumble lies more on Campbell then Portis. its his responsibility to make sure the hand-off hits portis in the chest

Nothing Campbell could do different there. Portis shouldn't have been reaching for the ball. He should have let Campbell put it in the breadbasket. Instead he reached for the ball because he was too anxious to hit the hole and it dropped.

DUH!

Its the annual time of year to place or hopes on DALLAS losing before the Super Bowl....this is still a 7-9 Redskins team...ugh.


Man I hope you're wrong, Dallas looks like the best in the NFC by far. I'm pulling for Green Bay if the Skins cant do it. But fuck lets get this ship righted and fire whoever was play-calling the 2nd half, was it gibbs or saunders or both?

Gibbs stated Betts was in because he was in on the entire last drive, so it just made sense to leave him in to finish the drive. The problem is, Portis has a nose for the endzone and Betts seems like he's effing scared of scoring touchdowns. Gibbs also stated that those last two runs are their best running play. The second issue is, those are Portis' best runs. Betts is most effective running inside, so I don't understand the call to run Betts wide.

The supposed "power back" got stoned by Antonio Pierce(who didn't even wrap him up initially) on third down, and then TRIPPED on fourth and the game. That was frustrating as hell to watch. Of course the game shouldn't have come down to that, but watching Campbell lead them down to the one yard line, and then Betts falling down with the game on the line pissed me off.


Agreed.....was hard to stomach! I'm still picking up my hair I pulled out, off the floor of the bar I watched the game at. Not really sure if Portis would have been any beter then Betts in that situation. Whatever the case....we sure didnt need to rush that play with over 25 secs to go :o( O-line was not prepared.

Gibbs stated Betts was in because he was in on the entire last drive, so it just made sense to leave him in to finish the drive. The problem is, Portis has a nose for the endzone and Betts seems like he's effing scared of scoring touchdowns. Gibbs also stated that those last two runs are their best running play. The second issue is, those are Portis' best runs. Betts is most effective running inside, so I don't understand the call to run Betts wide.

The supposed "power back" got stoned by Antonio Pierce(who didn't even wrap him up initially) on third down, and then TRIPPED on fourth and the game. That was frustrating as hell to watch. Of course the game shouldn't have come down to that, but watching Campbell lead them down to the one yard line, and then Betts falling down with the game on the line pissed me off.

Exactly...that's a play where Portis lowers his pads and goes into the endzone standing up! Betts didn't level his pads and didn't seem to make any effort to break the tackle.

As for Portis getting stuffed on 3 dives a few years ago. Betts is the same back who had someone grab his shirt tail and go down on like the 3. His shirt tail and he couldn't break the guy's grip in order to score. People need to see Betts for what he does: good vision, find the hole, hit the hole, go down after one hit (and generally fall backwards)