Gibbs called the final 4 plays...(No he didn't)

Not sure why people aren't getting this but they had to spike the ball in order to get the different personnel package in for the goal line. Spiking the ball was the least of our problems during that series.

Not sure why people aren't getting this but they had to spike the ball in order to get the different personnel package in for the goal line. Spiking the ball was the least of our problems during that series.

That makes sense. I was a tad inebriated by that point in the 4th quarter and I've been pretty much working non-stop the past few days. Didn't occur to me that was the case. But that's still no excuse for rushing that all-important 4th down play. We could have taken 10 seconds longer and maybe squeezed out that extra half-yard. Oh wel. Coulda woulda shoulda.

I agree there was no need to rush the last play, but I think that's due to having a young QB in there.

I have never liked the pick up of Al Saunders, it just never seemed like a good idea. Look at the divisions he coached in NFC west, and AFC west, they are mostly finesse divisions. The NFC east is more of a smashmouth division, Saunders seems to try to many gimmick plays rather than impose this offenses will on other teams. Its not like the talent isnt there, he just mis-uses it. I dont care if Gibbs called the last 4 plays, Saunders called all the others building up to it, he doesnt seem to mind putting his defense in a bind at all. I guess a big sign to not pick up Saunders was when his own team wouldnt give him an interview to be the head coach, if he was that talented of a coach he would have been retained in KC, plain and simple.

I have never liked the pick up of Al Saunders, it just never seemed like a good idea. Look at the divisions he coached in NFC west, and AFC west, they are mostly finesse divisions. The NFC east is more of a smashmouth division, Saunders seems to try to many gimmick plays rather than impose this offenses will on other teams. Its not like the talent isnt there, he just mis-uses it. I dont care if Gibbs called the last 4 plays, Saunders called all the others building up to it, he doesnt seem to mind putting his defense in a bind at all. I guess a big sign to not pick up Saunders was when his own team wouldnt give him an interview to be the head coach, if he was that talented of a coach he would have been retained in KC, plain and simple.
I myself do not think it was the play calling as much as JC not finding the open WR. I saw 7 to 8 plays where Moss, Cooley, and/or El were wide open and he did not throw the ball there way and thats what I saw while at the game. When I got home my neighbor said on TV it was clear that JC was starring down his WR's and that would account for the guys I saw wide open.

I myself do not think it was the play calling as much as JC not finding the open WR. I saw 7 to 8 plays where Moss, Cooley, and/or El were wide open and he did not throw the ball there way and thats what I saw while at the game. When I got home my neighbor said on TV it was clear that JC was starring down his WR's and that would account for the guys I saw wide open.

This could be true, but if your able to (tiVo) go back and look at the game, look how many calls on first down were wasted, gimmick plays and just stupid short screen passes.

Not sure why people aren't getting this but they had to spike the ball in order to get the different personnel package in for the goal line. Spiking the ball was the least of our problems during that series.
We had them on their heals and by spiking the ball we allowed them to bring in their goal line team which won the game for them. I know hine sight is 20/20 but if JC would have run up and did a QB sneak we would have scored and easy TD. If you have the game on film look at that play and the Giants only had a few men right on the line and everyone else was off the line making that an easy play. My seats were looking right down the goal line and I knew they where going to punch it in and he drops back and spikes the ball. Oh well !

We had them on their heals and by spiking the ball we allowed them to bring in their goal line team which won the game for them. I know hine sight is 20/20 but if JC would have run up and did a QB sneak we would have scored and easy TD. If you have the game on film look at that play and the Giants only had a few men right on the line and everyone else was off the line making that an easy play. My seats were looking right down the goal line and I knew they where going to punch it in and he drops back and spikes the ball. Oh well !

Very True

Not sure why people aren't getting this but they had to spike the ball in order to get the different personnel package in for the goal line. Spiking the ball was the least of our problems during that series.

But w/ a minute left there was plenty of time to call a play at the line. Throw a pass in the end zone. That way if we score then no need to bring in the jumbo package. If it's incomplete then bring in the jumbo casue the clock stops. Wasting a down with that much time was just silly. Don't you think?

But w/ a minute left there was plenty of time to call a play at the line. Throw a pass in the end zone. That way if we score then no need to bring in the jumbo package. If it's incomplete then bring in the jumbo casue the clock stops. Wasting a down with that much time was just silly. Don't you think?

Being a Monday morning QB is easy if all worked this thread would not exist and we would be sitting 3-0 then reality sets in.

With that said I do agree. After a quick strike, go at it again, no need on 1st to spike the ball with that much clock, try to hit the corner of the end zone to CC if he doesn't connect nothing lost. The defense more than likely would have been unprepared, then setup a jumbo package with plenty of time, and give the damn ball to BIG MIKE OR CP. LB GREAT asset but use the high percentage back at the goal line.