jsarno
09-21-2007, 01:36 PM
It doesn't affect the outcome? Are you serious? Then why spend time and money doing something that is obviously illegal in the NFL?
I love how people can even begin to claim that cheating doesn't give an unfair advantage. It just does, and its flatout wrong. Have you seen the video taken of the defensive signals? I don't think they are a bad team, but they cheated and what they did was wrong and messed up. Many people don't like them to begin with and this just adds to that. So like it or not, the Patriots are still cheaters(based on the rules and regulation of the NFL which they clearly knew).
I agree. You have to ask yourself this, if it doesn't help, or doesn't give an unfair advantage, why did the Patriots do it? Obviously it does. The dumbest argument is that it didn't affect anything. Of course it did or they wouldn't have wasted the time trying it.
mheisig
09-21-2007, 01:37 PM
I've hated them for years. Mainly because my uncle lives in Boston and is a Pats fan, and I've never liked my uncle, ergo I disliked the Patriots long before they were good.
Nobody can argue that they have a formula for winning year in and year out (whether that includes cheating or not). Yes, 3 Super Bowls, modern dynasty, yadda yadda.
None of that erases the fact that Belichick is an arrogant prick, and Brady is no better. Look at an organization like the Colts where you've got Manning and Dungy, probably to of the most standup, classy guys in the league. I'll root for them any day of the week even if they aren't any good.
Frankly I'm glad Belichick will forever be remembered with an asterisk next to his name. A fitting footnote for the games most pompous asshole.
GTripp0012
09-21-2007, 01:39 PM
I hate the Patriots only, but I don't see anyone beating them right now. They could go 16-0 barring some major injury.No. No they can not.
They will probably win at least twelve games, but it's nearly impossible for even a team made up entirely of probowlers to go a whole year without getting beat. The Pats are better than last year...but not leaps and bounds.
TheMalcolmConnection
09-21-2007, 01:45 PM
What worries me most about this picture is how the poop got there.
Unless your dogs have great aim, did you have to pick that up and move the poo?
What worries me most about this picture is how the poop got there.
Unless your dogs have great aim, did you have to pick that up and move the poo?
Thank god he doesn't have a great dane.
jsarno
09-21-2007, 02:25 PM
What worries me most about this picture is how the poop got there.
Unless your dogs have great aim, did you have to pick that up and move the poo?
LOL...I stepped up to the plate for the sake of a great picture!
Not to get too technical, but out here the sun bakes everything extremely quickly. The poo gets very dry in a matter of hours after it is pooed. It was easy to pick it up with the patriot shirt and pose it for the picture.
SouperMeister
09-21-2007, 02:31 PM
I hate the Patriots only, but I don't see anyone beating them right now. They could go 16-0 barring some major injury.
I'd love to see Laron put Brady's lights out on a blind-side hit when we play them. For that matter, I'd like Taylor to put out Randy Moss's lights as well.
mheisig
09-21-2007, 03:12 PM
LOL...I stepped up to the plate for the sake of a great picture!
Not to get too technical, but out here the sun bakes everything extremely quickly. The poo gets very dry in a matter of hours after it is pooed. It was easy to pick it up with the patriot shirt and pose it for the picture.
Did you use gloves, a bag or some sort of barrier?
skinsfan69
09-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Damn dude...why not give them more love?
Like I said. Like them or not you can't deny that they are a great football team. Sometimes I get sick and tired of all the crap about 'respect' and 'us' against the world. It gets old. But what I like is how they play on the field. I love how they game plan. I love how they know the other teams weakness and exploit it. All that other crap doesn't mean shit to me. It's what they do on the field.
It will be interesting to see how we attack the Giants this week. Are we going to come out and try and run first ? Which will be the wrong thing to do. Or are we going to open it up a little bit? Take the training wheels off JC. The Giants are so bad in the secondary and their LB's can not cover my Mother. If the focus isn't on Santana and Cooley then that's shitty game planning. This is why I like the Pats. They really know how to gameplan and that's the shit I like.
skinsfan69
09-21-2007, 03:25 PM
It doesn't affect the outcome? Are you serious? Then why spend time and money doing something that is obviously illegal in the NFL?
I love how people can even begin to claim that cheating doesn't give an unfair advantage. It just does, and its flatout wrong. Have you seen the video taken of the defensive signals? I don't think they are a bad team, but they cheated and what they did was wrong and messed up. Many people don't like them to begin with and this just adds to that. So like it or not, the Patriots are still cheaters(based on the rules and regulation of the NFL which they clearly knew).
Yes I'm serious. The media is making way more than what it is. So what if there is video of defensive signals. Someone would have to know what the signals are, then quicky relay them to the offensive coordinator who would then have to call a play for that specific defense. All in the matter of 30 seconds? Trust me on this. It doesn't do shit as far as the outcome is concerned. But yes it is cheating and yes it's wrong.