chrisl4064
09-19-2007, 05:34 PM
donovan had all day unless we were sending blitzing. i was pissed the entire game at that. every time there was a sack or any pressure at all i would see landry or rocky or washington in there. same thing with the dolphins game. i honestly think this may hurt us in the long run. i mean seriously was anyone else not screaming at the TV when Donovan would drop back and just casually look around for an open guy? good thing he sucks and our corners stepped up this week.
i know its too late to do anything about now, but we have to fix this in the offseason. and what the hell kind of tackle was that when evans hit westbrook before he took off for a 30 yard gain, disgusting.
Drift Reality
09-19-2007, 05:40 PM
Dude, we won the game.
We all know they could use a big-time pass rusher and hopefully they address next year. I don't see the point in griping about this right now.
12thMan
09-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Both Carter and Marcus Washington had sacks from the DE positions. And Rocky had a sack. That;s good to me.
Schneed10
09-19-2007, 05:42 PM
Well I certainly am not opposed to us going after a stud pass rusher in the offseason, if we can get our hands on one. But to call the defensive line's play a major issue is flat out incorrect.
I remember seeing Carter coming around the edge, forcing Donovan to evade him as Griffin pushed his way into the backfield, wrapping him up and taking him down.
I saw several other instances in which Carter was coming around the edge and Donovan threw the ball just before Carter made contact. McNabb's throws were way off in most of those cases. Some blame it on the knee, and maybe that's true, but you could tell he could not set his feet and get comfortable in the pocket.
Sacks aren't the only measure of defensive line play. Pressure itself makes a big impact on the game.
Now, when McNabb started to get rolling at the end of the second half, he was getting the ball out quickly because GW had the corners back off and leave a cushion to prevent any huge plays. The line didn't have time to get to McNabb before the ball came out.
I thought they did well the other night.
We definitely need more pressure from the front four. We won't have a top 5 defense till those guys can cause some problems.
I think our line play is directly related to lack of turnovers.
Paintrain
09-19-2007, 05:53 PM
When we were using a 4 man rush for most of the game and sitting back in shell coverage we're not going to generate a ton of pressure. Also you don't bring tons of pressure against mobile QBs because if they break contain they're going to run for a long time.. Since Ellie Mae doesn't like pressure in his face, I'd expect to see Grilliams release the hounds more this week.
We generated sufficient pressure to keep them out of the end zone and the win column, I'm happy enough with that.
mlmpetert
09-19-2007, 05:58 PM
Both Carter and Marcus Washington had sacks from the DE positions. And Rocky had a sack. That;s good to me.
McIntosh, Landry boost Redskins' defense - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Auyfer6y89jzESEgebCnSJdDubYF?slug=mcinto shlandryboostredsk&prov=tsn&type=lgns)
We have more then a 1/4 of the amount of sacks we had all last season. If our secondary can keep playing like they did in phily hopefully our line will come togather. Its still real early in the season.
chrisl4064
09-19-2007, 06:06 PM
McIntosh, Landry boost Redskins' defense - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Auyfer6y89jzESEgebCnSJdDubYF?slug=mcinto shlandryboostredsk&prov=tsn&type=lgns)
We have more then a 1/4 of the amount of sacks we had all last season. If our secondary can keep playing like they did in phily hopefully our line will come togather. Its still real early in the season.
again.... im not talking about our linebackers and safeties. im talking about the front four on a four man rush getting bitched everytime.
and yes, hopefully our secondary plays very well, because honestly if we go into new england with no pressure its over, brady will eat us apart. i would like to see these guys step it up.
wilsowilso
09-19-2007, 06:17 PM
I'm sorry but Andre Carter needs to learn a few moves. I'm not complaining about out DLine except for him and he has still played pretty good. I just think that speed rush to the outside ten yards past the quarterback is useless. Try a drop step or cutback.
70Chip
09-19-2007, 06:31 PM
The defensive line played great against the Eagles. The goal with McNabb is to try to keep him in the pocket. This means that pass-rushers cannot go all out to try to get to him because they have to be concerned with maintaining their contain. Andre Carter, for instance, can't really try to speed around the Tackle because that would leave a big lane for McNabb to run through. He has to try and be consious of McNabb the runner. Having said that, I think we did sck him twice if I'm not mistaken. Maybe more.
The bottom line is you want McNabb to be a pocket passer. That's your best chance to win.