McNabb says black QBs criticized more

Black players are the majority of 'skill position' players, but the "cerebral positions" center and QB are manned at more than a 90% clip of white players.. I don't see how someone who is uniquely qualified to express his opinon (since nobody here on the board is a black NFL QB) makes him a stupid SOB and cry baby.

He is also "Uniquely Qualified" to repeatedly bear the backlash of such comments to the media, and the questionable judgement of doing so.......repeatedly.
The failure to learn that a certain action, will bring a certain negative reaction, time and again makes him a stupid SOB

To the part bolded, getting a fair opportunity isn't the benefit of the doubt.

I agree that for the most part Brooks is terrible, but is he any worse than Doug Johnson, Drew Henson, Billy Volek, Kerry Collins, Jared Lorenzen, Charlie Frye, Patrick Ramsey (that was for some of you out there :) ), David Carr, AJ Feely? My point isn't that he is good, just he somewhat accomplished as an NFL QB but didn't get a sniff this offseason even as a backup..

For every Shaun King (who took his team to the NFC Championship game & was in the league less than 5 years) there are 2-3 Todd Collins, players who were never starters yet carved out a long career as a backup.. Aaron Brooks holds a lot of Saints passing records (over Archie Manning), Jackson was a second round pick and is still young, Peete was a high draft pick who started for most of his career, Blake & Wright are somewhat exceptions to the rule..

As I orignally posted, black QB have to be great, not good to have a long career in the league.. The criticism they get seems to be quicker and harsher than white QB and the leash is a lot shorter..

I have to agree with you on 100% on Aaron Brooks. He is better than so many NFL back-ups it's not even funny. Brooks is better than Drew Henson, Jared Lorenzen, Charlie Frye, AJ Feely, Joey Harrington, Doug Johnson, JT O'Sullivan, Bruce Gradkowdski. I'm probably mssing some. But you get my point.

I have to agree with you on 100% on Aaron Brooks. He is better than so many NFL back-ups it's not even funny. Brooks is better than Drew Henson, Jared Lorenzen, Charlie Frye, AJ Feely, Joey Harrington, Doug Johnson, JT O'Sullivan, Bruce Gradkowdski. I'm probably mssing some. But you get my point.I don't think I'd cut a single one of those guys for Brooks.

I think in a few cases, Brooks is a comprable option. However, he's on the wrong side of 30, and is pretty horrible. Lorenzen, Frye, Harrington, O'Sullivan, and Gradkowski are all still getting better. I think I'd take Brooks over Doug Johnson, but that's pretty much about it.

I don't think the Bengals would be a lot better with Brooks as their No. 2 anyway.

Henson sucks, but hes not in the league, I don't believe.

I think a point a lot of people are missing is that the majority of black QB's are scrambling qb's. The Majority of white qb's are pocket passers.
I don't think this issues is as much about race as it is style of qb.
Vick was a god in Atlanta and would have had that job for life, and he did nothing to deserve it. Young in Tennessee has been given the key to the freakin city and everyone thinks he's an amazing QB (minus me...I feel he's the most overrated QB in the league). Look at Culpepper...he came off a possible career ending injury, and the Dolphins STILL gave him the full reins and a nice contract even though they had no clue of what they were getting. Leftwich was one of the few pocket passers, and what did he do for jacksonville? Nothing! He never threw for more than 15 td's in a season. Who did they replace him with? A black scrambling QB.
McNabb talked about Manning and Brady...well, in case he forgot, Manning was scrutinized for not being able to win the big game until he won the big game. Brady has won 3...why would he be scrutinized? McNabb needs to shut up and win the big one, then he can ride their bus. Instead is a consistant loser when the playoffs come around!
Pennington was freakin cheered for getting hurt in NY. Eli has been called "sheli". In our own backyard, Brunell took us to the playoffs, and his job was still in jeopardy. Plummer was on his way to the playoffs then got benched for a rookie.
This is not about race people, this is about "what have you done for me lately." White QB's have been scrutinized just as much as black qb's (in recent years, not back in the day). McNabb is living in the past, and it's wrong to assume it's race. It's obviously not when Campbell and Young come out and say what they did. I respect both for saying it, and I appreciate Campbell's stand.
About Favre...he plays in an area that idolizes their players...they have nothing else. He won a super bowl for them, and that's all they needed for life...that signed his ticket.
PS- Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won super bowls, and where are they now? They did what McNabb can't do, and they lost their jobs shortly after winning. Don't tell me white qb's are not held to the same standards. They are. It's all about what have you done for me lately.

McNabb is trying to turn the table on this so people don't see just how bad he is in the playoffs. I do not blame the Phily fans for getting restless...they are a perennial playoff team, yet they have not won anything. How is this? Who is the first to be blamed in these cases? The QB!
McNabb has been the reason they lost in 5 playoff games. That's 5 years worth of losses. That's HUGE!
2000- 181 yards, 1td, 1int
2001- 171 yards, 1td, 1int
2002- 243 yards, 0td, 1int
2003- 100 yards, 0td, 3int
2004- 357 yards, 3td, 3int*
*- in the super bowl, those 3int's killed the eagles...he played fairly well otherwise.
In 5 games, he threw for 1052 yards, 5tds, and 9int's. This is a guy that averages a little under 2 td's a game, and a little over .5 int's a game, yet in the playoff losses he averages only 1 td but almost 2 int's a game?
I ask you, what QB in the league has performed this poorly in the playoffs and not gotten any scrutiny? If you ask me, he's lucky to not get more flack from people. He's the true choke artist. Most people don't even get that many chances to prove themselves...he's had ample opportunity and blew it. Again, this is not about race, it's about him, and he's trying to deflect it to be about race.
You want to talk about race in sports, then let's talk about how many white people there are playing basketball.

McNabb's intense scrutiny is really a product of playing in Philly, not his being black. I went to college in Philly in the 80's, and I vividly recall idiot Philly fans booing Mike Schmidt, perhaps the greatest ballplayer in the 100+ years of their franchise. In Philly, that just comes with the territory. That said, McNabb has labored an entire career with a series of stiffs at WR (T.O. aside), and managed to be one of the better QBs of this generation. Give him Peyton Manning's WRs and Donovan would have two rings by now.

McNabb is trying to turn the table on this so people don't see just how bad he is in the playoffs. I do not blame the Phily fans for getting restless...they are a perennial playoff team, yet they have not won anything. How is this? Who is the first to be blamed in these cases? The QB!
McNabb has been the reason they lost in 5 playoff games. That's 5 years worth of losses. That's HUGE!
2000- 181 yards, 1td, 1int
2001- 171 yards, 1td, 1int
2002- 243 yards, 0td, 1int
2003- 100 yards, 0td, 3int
2004- 357 yards, 3td, 3int*
*- in the super bowl, those 3int's killed the eagles...he played fairly well otherwise.
In 5 games, he threw for 1052 yards, 5tds, and 9int's. This is a guy that averages a little under 2 td's a game, and a little over .5 int's a game, yet in the playoff losses he averages only 1 td but almost 2 int's a game?
I ask you, what QB in the league has performed this poorly in the playoffs and not gotten any scrutiny? If you ask me, he's lucky to not get more flack from people. He's the true choke artist. Most people don't even get that many chances to prove themselves...he's had ample opportunity and blew it. Again, this is not about race, it's about him, and he's trying to deflect it to be about race.
You want to talk about race in sports, then let's talk about how many white people there are playing basketball.You're analyzing it backwards. I loosely agree with what you are saying, but the idea is not to take all the playoff loses and try to blame McNabb for them. It's to try to find out who was most responsible for those losses.

My answer: The Bucs, Panthers, and Patriots. McNabb didn't beat those teams because his team was worse than those teams. His numbers in those games reflect the dominances of those defenses. Course that wasn't just McNabb's line against them. That was every QB they played in those seasons.

If he had lead Philly to a Super Bowl championship or 2 he'd be the toast of the town. Unfortunately he hasnt and the brutal Philly fans are letting him know it. This all seems like sour grapes to me.

McNabb is trying to turn the table on this so people don't see just how bad he is in the playoffs. I do not blame the Phily fans for getting restless...they are a perennial playoff team, yet they have not won anything. How is this? Who is the first to be blamed in these cases? The QB!
McNabb has been the reason they lost in 5 playoff games. That's 5 years worth of losses. That's HUGE!
2000- 181 yards, 1td, 1int
2001- 171 yards, 1td, 1int
2002- 243 yards, 0td, 1int
2003- 100 yards, 0td, 3int
2004- 357 yards, 3td, 3int*
*- in the super bowl, those 3int's killed the eagles...he played fairly well otherwise.
In 5 games, he threw for 1052 yards, 5tds, and 9int's. This is a guy that averages a little under 2 td's a game, and a little over .5 int's a game, yet in the playoff losses he averages only 1 td but almost 2 int's a game?
I ask you, what QB in the league has performed this poorly in the playoffs and not gotten any scrutiny? If you ask me, he's lucky to not get more flack from people. He's the true choke artist. Most people don't even get that many chances to prove themselves...he's had ample opportunity and blew it. Again, this is not about race, it's about him, and he's trying to deflect it to be about race.
You want to talk about race in sports, then let's talk about how many white people there are playing basketball.

The reason why more white people are not in basketball is because they are not the best players in that sport. Plain and simple.

Here's what I'm pissed about--why no black kickers!

J/K, obviously. I agree that there is inherent racism throughout the US, though much of it below the surface. But it's getting better. These things take time.

As for Donovan's stats, etc.--my guess is that many teams in many cities would be happy to get McNabb even now, much less a few years ago. He's kicked our asses enough times for me to appreciate that he's a high quality NFL QB. He hasn't won a SB, so that's gonna dog him for his career unless he manages to do so.

Race is a tough thing, especially here in the US with our long history of race problems. So I think he was correct in his comment. But he no doubt didn't help his standing by making the comment, especially given the timing. But I respect McNabb, and so I give him the benefit of the doubt here. ANY comment about race is going to cause a firestorm. But not speaking up about it is probably worse--getting these things out in the open and debated will help, even if it takes a long time.