McNabb says black QBs criticized more

mcnabb is a whiney baby

Screw McNabb...it's CAMPBELL'S Chunky Soup now! :laughing-

If McNabb plays like he did Monday he should be criticized for it. If his receivers suck, then Reid and Lurie should be criticized. If he's still hurt then maybe he shouldn't be playing yet. I can't quite figure out what race has to do with it. Yes there is racism in America. That statement always has been and always will be indisputable. But, in the case of McNabb the one person who ever commented negatively on his race was immediately fired and everyone within a five mile radius of a t.v. camera made sure to get in front of it and denounce Limbaugh as either a know nothing or an outright racist.

Is he saying that the fans in Philadelphia are particularly racist? If so, he should make that clear and leave the rest of us out of it. I remember a time when Schroeder v. Williams was a QB controversey in Redskinland. Everyone I know was decidedly in the Williams camp. Even the guys who think Easy Rider had a happy ending were vehement supporters of Williams. I've never heard anyone comment on Campbell being black in a negative way and I talk to Redskins fans of nearly every type.

So, I can say with confidence that there is no football racism among the Redskin Nation. And I believe that if McNabb were a Redskin and played like he did Monday, that African American Redskins fans would be yelling for his head along with everyone else. Now, we must all acknowledge that football racism has been made obsolete by the simple desire to win. Everday racism-by which I mean the "I'd like to date your daughter" racism is still much, much too common.

oh boy........:confused:

How come whenever McNabb is doing poorly it is because (his reasoning) black QB's are overly criticized?

It just sounds like a much too convenient "crutch" for him to lean on.

QBs that have been more successful than McNabb with equal or less "weaponry":

Matt Hasselbeck
Steve McNair
Brett Favre (pre and post-Walker)
Rich Gannon
Trent Green
Tom Brady
Drew Brees (circa SD)
Chad Pennington (pre shoulder injury)

The argument for McNabb over these guys is that all of these guys for one reason or another have faded in or out of the national spotlight, but all of these guys were better in their prime than Donovan was, and they were so throwing to guys like Darrell Jackson, Derrick Mason, Antonio Freeman, Charlie Garner, Troy Brown, Eric Parker, and Laverneus Coles. James Thrash in his prime was at least as competant as a majority of those guys.

Prior to 03, McNabb never had an elite target. However, by 2004 and 05, he had two. Since then, he's still had Westbrook, who has only gotten better and better since he came into the league.

Receiver play does not excuse average passing. Its an adjustment factor. If McNabb was a deserving 5 time pro bowler, he'd be able to consistently complete more than 60% in a QB friendly offense. By this point in his career its obvious he isn't good enough to do so.

Good for him with his mobility, but it hasn't helped his numbers a whole lot. Maybe it has, but if thats the case, then he is not a very good pocket passer at all. Also, if that is the case, then now that his mobility is limited this year, he won't be a serious threat at all.

Anyway, this is not to take away from what the guy has accomplished (which is quite a bit) in his 8 1/8 years in this league, only to take away from what he hasn't accomplished: become an elite QB.

I think your opinions are so hell bent on stats that it clouds your judgement a bit. Just because a guy isn't a 65% passer does mean he is not an elite QB.

I bet if you asked 32 NFL defensive coordinators who would you rather defend. A healthy McNabb or Pennington? 32 out of 32 would say Pennington. Yes Pennington complets 65% but he isn't as good of a QB. McNabb can beat you with his arm and legs.

In a west coast style of offense he should be about a 60% passer or above. He is probably around 57% or 58% for his career. That is good enough to get the job done. Accuracy is not his strength. He is not Carson Palmer. Playmaking is his strength. There is a difference. If you don't understand the difference then so be it.

I think Jason Campbell could probably end up being a McNabb type of QB. He might not ever be a 65% passer like Pennington. But he makes plays that Pennington or Trent Green will never ever make with his downfield arm and mobility. Do you understand the difference????

it,s all about playmaking abilities.. for me i much rather face pennigton than mcnabb cause his record against us shows that too.

accuracy is great but playmaking is what seperates the best from the rest..

McNabb presser with the Philly media, much of it related to this topic:

ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet (http://www.profootballtalk.com/McNabbRemarks9-19-07.htm)

Listen...if your not black please at least try to understand where he is coming from. The first thing people do is try to discredit what he is saying before really assessing WHY he made the statement. Yes, there are plenty of black quarterbacks today. But this is 2007 and I bet you cant name 25 quarterbacks in 75 years of the NFL. So when someone makes a statement that involves how he feels about history, people should not become so defensive and become more understanding as to WHY he said it.
****lets not forget this statement was made weeks before we beat the eagles. So at the time he was considered one of the best in the game****

I could go on & on. But being black there are things that you do have to do better than your white counterparts even in 2007. So I UNDERSTAND his statement but DO NOT USE it as an excuse for poor performance on the field.

i'm a white man with many black friends who i gladly call my brothers.racism does rear its ugly head very frequent here in the south.i have seen the klan march all over this area,especially when i was younger.but maybe other than the jimmy the greek/linnbaugh examples,i can't ever remember the race issue in i the NFL.i would also stress anybody that has been talked at more than peyton manning till he won the superbowl last year.maybe only john elway,and jim kelly have ever been raked over the media coils more!