RI: Collins is the no. 2

I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.


And #2.

I'm still hoping someone knows of the cap ramifications of trading Brunell.
I really dont think it is possible.
And then who would we get to replace him, Bramlet?

PA-Leeze.....some CAP guru, help.

I just want this Brunell trade talk to die!

Just look at our cap sheets under the release fees section. It would cost the Skins about $3.5M to get rid of MB this year.

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

I was listening to the (gadawful) Sports Reporters the other day, and I agreed with what Czaben had to say (then went home and showered to get the stench off):

Behind Campbell, there is Trash 2a and Trash 2b. If Campbell goes down, the season goes with him. (paraphrased of course)

I have to agree there. We were a 5 win offensive system last year, and if Campbell goes down, we're back to the same elements of the 5 win offensive system. The defense will only take this team so far.

I hope Campbell doesn't go down and has a successful season...but if he does, I hope the analysis above is completely wrong.

I think alot of teams around the league would be sunk if their starting QB went down.

It's awfully tough these days to hold on to quality depth at that position for very long before someone swoops in and gives your backup a starting job.

Could our situation be better? Yeah probably... but at the same time having two veterans who are well versed in the offense isn't necessarily a terrible thing.

I think this just repeats what we already know, that this is Brunell's last year.

I think alot of teams around the league would be sunk if their starting QB went down.

It's awfully tough these days to hold on to quality depth at that position for very long before someone swoops in and gives your backup a starting job.

Could our situation be better? Yeah probably... but at the same time having two veterans who are well versed in the offense isn't necessarily a terrible thing.

Stop making sense, you rational weirdo!

I think alot of teams around the league would be sunk if their starting QB went down.

It's awfully tough these days to hold on to quality depth at that position for very long before someone swoops in and gives your backup a starting job.

Could our situation be better? Yeah probably... but at the same time having two veterans who are well versed in the offense isn't necessarily a terrible thing.

Totally agree. I just don't get people that say, "Oh the season is lost if JC goes down." I'll bet the same could be said of at least 20 or more teams if they lost their starter. While I'm thrilled about our back-up situation, I'm satisfied with it.

Along the lines of depth, by the way, accross the board, I think we have as much depth as any team in the NFL.

We still have a very good QB situation. Few teams can say they have 3 QBs on their roster that at least one team in the league values enough to start. While Collins and Brunell are both well past their respective primes, theres no reason to think either couldnt come in and complete 60-65% of passes and move the ball as well as Campbell could at this point in his young career. We've seen it before.

The crazy thing about the backup is that for 85% of the league, who the backup is can be the most trivial of all football facts. For the remaining 15%, it decides who continues to play up to the potential of the roster (2006 Philly), and who falls off the face of the earth (2006 Tampa).

I feel pretty good knowing that no matter who starts at QB for the Skins, the offense still gives us a pretty solid shot to win every week. Make no mistake about it, with our offense solidly entrenched in the 10-15 range in the NFL, the defense and special teams (especially FG%) will determine how many teams we beat this year.

Of course, that was the case last year too...and well you get the point.

I'm not saying that it's not completely obvious, the situation if Campbell goes down...however, I'm overstating my lack of confidence in Brunell and Collins. It's nice to have 2 veteran QBs that know the system. However, neither have "it" in them anymore to carry a team further than a quarter or 2.

It's nice to have lofty expectations, and while I have them, the realist in me sees that it really doesn't matter who the backups are...what needs to happen is this team needs to live up to it's own expectations, then exceed them.

I have to agree there. We were a 5 win offensive system last year, and if Campbell goes down, we're back to the same elements of the 5 win offensive system. The defense will only take this team so far.He's wrong on this account though. If we had a perfectly average defense last year and perfectly average special teams (we actually had above average teams last year...but the kicking game sucked), we would have won approx. one more than half our games that Brunell started, and maybe a game less than half the games JC started. That's an 8-8 or 9-7 season. The fact that we only won 5 games was half random fluctuations of dumb luck, and half historically bad defense.

Either way, the D and kicking game should improve enough to add 4 wins onto our total from last year. Little luck and we should be a playoff team.