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SouperMeister 08-21-2007, 01:40 PM I think we are overanalyzing this. The simplest answer to why he got cut is that he was outplayed in camp.
This offseason, we've made a significant effort to find LBs who are good vs. the pass. Fletcher, we made a run at Briggs, drafting Sartz and Blades, two very underrated cover LBs, who dropped due to size. For two straight years now, Marshall has been awful against the pass. While his prowess against the run could have justified the 4th LB spot, its possible he didn't "fit" our new defense.
I agree that it probably came down to his play. Let's be honest, Marshall was a weakness at MLB last year.
Gmanc711 08-21-2007, 01:43 PM I agree that it probably came down to his play. Let's be honest, Marshall was a weakness at MLB last year.
He was probaboly our biggest defensive playmaker in 2005, however. I mean the entire defense did a great job and he was in good position alot of times...but if you go back to 2005, he made some HUGE plays for us....
Paintrain 08-21-2007, 01:44 PM The timing of it is curious.. Why cut him now rather than after the next game unless it was just so obvious he was not going to make the team?
Schneed10 08-21-2007, 01:47 PM I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Marshall was released in part to help clear cap room for a contract extension to Chris Cooley.
It seems like we'd hear something about a Cooley contract extension if talks were getting close. So there's no reason to believe an extension is imminent.
Nonetheless, Marshall's release does clear $1 million in cap space, and assuming Godfrey is making the vet minimum, this move would represent a net increase in our cap space.
I don't want to read much into it at this point, other than to say it's unlike the Skins to leave cap room on the table.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-21-2007, 01:47 PM Huh??? How is Marshall going to beat out Hilenmeyer? Unless he got hurt or something.
My friends who follow the Bears have told me that the Bears have been talking about replacing him. Last season he registered a whopping 36 tackles and no INTs. He's never had more than 55 tackles in ANY season in his career.
SouperMeister 08-21-2007, 01:49 PM He was probaboly our biggest defensive playmaker in 2005, however. I mean the entire defense did a great job and he was in good position alot of times...but if you go back to 2005, he made some HUGE plays for us....
I agree that he played well in 2005. My favorite "Marshall Moment" was in the penultimate game of 2005 against the G-men when Lemar intercepted a pass intended for Shockey, who in typical Shockey fashion, turned and bitched at the refs while Marshall was taking the ball back 20 yards the other way. I had a bunch of Giants fans wearing #80 jerseys sitting near me that day, and I got right in their faces pointing out how their boy quit on what was one of the biggest plays of the game. Priceless.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-21-2007, 01:49 PM I think we are overanalyzing this. The simplest answer to why he got cut is that he was outplayed in camp.
This offseason, we've made a significant effort to find LBs who are good vs. the pass. Fletcher, we made a run at Briggs, drafting Sartz and Blades, two very underrated cover LBs, who dropped due to size. For two straight years now, Marshall has been awful against the pass. While his prowess against the run could have justified the 4th LB spot, its possible he didn't "fit" our new defense.
I always thought that Marshall was pretty good in coverage and sub-par in run-blocking (which isn't surprising considering he is a 230 lb. MLB).
saden1 08-21-2007, 01:51 PM ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2984529) is now reporting the story. Clearly Lamar lost his staying power when he was demoted in favour of London Fletcher. I wouldn't be surprised if he was disgruntled and asked to be released. I mean, I would. I don't think personal pride would allow you to be demoted.
In last weeks game Marshall didn't play with any enthusiasm. He was winging it.
12thMan 08-21-2007, 01:53 PM C'mon you guys, Marshall wasn't bitching about riding the pine or being a back-up. He's been a team guy from day one, and I highly doubt he was released because he was bitching and moaning. Could be wrong, but it's just not consistent with how they've portrayed him in the past.
We all know in GWs system people are in different packages all the time, and with Marcus now playing DE in certain situations Marshall would have almost been guaranteed significant playing time. GWs defense didn't get more complex. In fact, he's scaled it back some and simplified some things, so it had nothing if anything to do with the system.
It had to be one or two things: Either that damn shoulder injury is still bothering him to the point it's affecting his performance or they are just going in another direction with the young guys.
70Chip 08-21-2007, 01:54 PM I agree that he played well in 2005. My favorite "Marshall Moment" was in the penultimate game of 2005 against the G-men when Lemar intercepted a pass intended for Shockey, who in typical Shockey fashion, turned and bitched at the refs while Marshall was taking the ball back 20 yards the other way. I had a bunch of Giants fans wearing #80 jerseys sitting near me that day, and I got right in their faces pointing out how their boy quit on what was one of the biggest plays of the game. Priceless.
I thought the play against the Eagles when he tipped the interception to himself was one of the great defensive plays in Redskins history. That game was not going our way at the time. (This was the game where ST returned the fumble and Mrs. Portis threw down and repesented.)
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