skinsfan_nn
08-12-2007, 09:58 PM
this isn't a valid point. if you are talking about baseball. with 30+ teams, the talent is so watered down, half these guys shouldn't even be on a major league roster. let alone playing
You are correct dmek. For those who have forgotten the forfathers, here are a few! These are the gents that laid the foundation for this game, not tiger woods. The competion was feircy back in yester year, and don't forget it. Tiger is still trying to get Jacks records.
Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, Bobby Jones, Sam Snead, Byron Nelson, Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, Walter Hagen, Gene Sarazen,
Tom Watson
jsarno
08-13-2007, 12:40 AM
this isn't a valid point. if you are talking about baseball. with 30+ teams, the talent is so watered down, half these guys shouldn't even be on a major league roster. let alone playing
100% disagree.
I seriously doubt that any pitcher from say the 1920's could throw 90+, and just about every pitcher can throw that hard today.
Not saying that makes a great pitcher, but the soft junk from yesteryear would be long gone from the hitters of today.
So while some teams have sub par players, they are still the cream of the crop and far and away better than the players of yesterday.
I have no doubt that Ruth would never even make a pro roster if he played today. He NEVER worked out, he NEVER really practiced, or wieght trained. He would be lucky to make it to single A.
FRPLG
08-13-2007, 09:40 AM
I have no doubt that Ruth would never even make a pro roster if he played today. He NEVER worked out, he NEVER really practiced, or wieght trained. He would be lucky to make it to single A.
This is an insane statement. The guy was the most feared hitter in the history of the league. Even if today's pitchers reduce his effectivness 50% he is still better than half the league today whether he is fat or not. I think you are not understanding just how great he was.
jbcjr14
08-13-2007, 10:16 AM
Another major victory for Mr. Woods. I believe this was #13. What a stellar performance this week by this guy. People would get close, he would shut the door.
Congrats on luck #13!
skinsfan_nn
08-13-2007, 02:52 PM
Another major victory for Mr. Woods. I believe this was #13. What a stellar performance this week by this guy. People would get close, he would shut the door.
Congrats on luck #13!
I hope you meant congrats on a major win #13, no LUCK involved.
jsarno
08-13-2007, 03:08 PM
This is an insane statement. The guy was the most feared hitter in the history of the league. Even if today's pitchers reduce his effectivness 50% he is still better than half the league today whether he is fat or not. I think you are not understanding just how great he was.
I do understand how great he was...in his era.
You don't understand how much of a joke he was off the field, and how poorly he kept himself in shape. No team would have put up with him now.
He would be at best a cecil fielder type player now-a-days.
I'm not taking anything away from what he was back in his day, he was the greatest hitter ever back in the day, but we're talking about an amazingly different era now.
jsarno
08-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Another major victory for Mr. Woods. I believe this was #13. What a stellar performance this week by this guy. People would get close, he would shut the door.
Congrats on luck #13!
Did you know that Jack got his 13th when he was 35, and Tiger is 31. Jack ended with 18 majors and was 46 when he got his 18th. Tiger is on pace to get his 18th by the age of 41 at worst.