smokers tax

You have said in earlier threads that you believe global warm is real and we need to do something about it. If you think a high tax will curb people from smoking then we must assume that a high tax on gas will curb consumption. If global warming is that big of a consern then it would make sense to have the higher tax to save the planet v/s taxing cigs which would only save smokers.

Of course global warming is an issue but you can't be serious in thinking cranking up gas prices to discourage people from driving is a realistic solution.

Regardless, let's stick to the original topic. Comparing gas to cigarettes is too much of a stretch to even take seriously.

The other reason I made that point is because people don't have problems with others paying high taxes but when it effects them then they have a problem with the tax and from your past post you made my point.

I don't agree with that. I'm all in favor of paying higher taxes for something if I know where that money is going and if it's for the better good of society in general.

I don't agree with that. I'm all in favor of paying higher taxes for something if I know where that money is going and if it's for the better good of society in general.
Ok, so the money goes to help cut down on usage, to provide study for alternative sources, and if we cut down usage then we cut down polution which is a hugh benifit to society and we cut down our dependence from other nations.

Of course global warming is an issue but you can't be serious in thinking cranking up gas prices to discourage people from driving is a realistic solution.

Regardless, let's stick to the original topic. Comparing gas to cigarettes is too much of a stretch to even take seriously.
It is about as realistic as taxing cigs to curb use which you say it will. So then it would curb driving habits and a start to reducing green house gases.

It is about as realistic as taxing cigs to curb use which you say it will. So then it would curb driving habits and a start to reducing green house gases.

I'm not the one saying it, there have been plenty of studies done that support that.

At what cost will jacking up gas prices have on the economy?? That would far outweigh the benefits to the environment.

Cranking up prices isn't a blanket solution to help curb all behaviors, not sure why you're trying to make it seem that way.

Ok, so the money goes to help cut down on usage, to provide study for alternative sources, and if we cut down usage then we cut down polution which is a hugh benifit to society and we cut down our dependence from other nations.

All of this research is already in existence and isn't in need of more funding through extra gas taxes. If you can prove to me that this type of R&D is in desperate need of extra funding, you might have a point.

All of this research is already in existence and isn't in need of more funding through extra gas taxes. If you can prove to me that this type of R&D is in desperate need of extra funding, you might have a point.

Rebuilding the nations instructors seem to be all over the news these days, what about using the money for that and getting me to and from work quicker?

I'm not the one saying it, there have been plenty of studies done that support that.

At what cost will jacking up gas prices have on the economy?? That would far outweigh the benefits to the environment.

Cranking up prices isn't a blanket solution to help curb all behaviors, not sure why you're trying to make it seem that way.
I was just making a point using your argument for a cig tax. If you think about our conversation on this it has done a 180. I'm using your argument for a cig tax to make a argument for a gas tax and your using my argument against a cig tax to make your argument against a gas tax. LOL

You have said in earlier threads that you believe global warm is real and we need to do something about it. If you think a high tax will curb people from smoking then we must assume that a high tax on gas will curb consumption. If global warming is that big of a consern then it would make sense to have the higher tax to save the planet v/s taxing cigs which would only save smokers.

The other reason I made that point is because people don't have problems with others paying high taxes but when it effects them then they have a problem with the tax and from your past post you made my point.

Well, when gas prices went from around $2 a gallon to around $3.29 a gallon, did that reduce our gas cunsumption?
No it didn't...why? Cause we NEED gas to get around and go to work. Not all of us can car pool or take the public transportation system.
Taxing gas would only hurt us as a country, not help anything.

Some of you are approaching Matty with ideas of taxing gas to fund alternative fuels. 1- that's not feasible since no one has that intention. 2- How about use the "sin taxes" to fund alternative fuels research?

Not to turn this into an alternative fuels thread, but we already have e-85, it's all about letting the oil companies go, and getting the government to agree to make that switch. People are hesitant.

It is about as realistic as taxing cigs to curb use which you say it will. So then it would curb driving habits and a start to reducing green house gases.

While I applaud the effort for thinking outside the box, this is just not realistic.
Taxing cigs / raising prices has already shown to reduce smoking (as a previous link proved) yet taxing gas / raising prices has shown to not even phase america because we have to use something to fuel our transportation. Right now, we have no other option. But you fail to recognize that we NEED gas (or some other option to fuel our transportation) but we do not in any form or fashion need Cigarettes. They are completely useless to society and in fact are actually a huge negative on society in terms of cancer and other expensive health issues they cause.
No one has been successful in saying "well if you tax cigs, then what about..." (except maybe alcohol which are similar vices). I'd like to see cigs at $10 a pack. Obviously people are too dumb to stop smoking on their own (or too addicted), but if you raise the price to amazing levels, more and more would quit, and those that are suffering smoking related illnesses would be much less of a burden on society.