Is Brady Quinn Being Selfish By Holding Out?

This holdout is getting more interesting by the day. On one hand, Quinn was chosen late in the first round, but on the other hand he is a top quarterback prospect. So the Browns are like, hey, we want to pay you like the 22nd pick should be paid - and that's fair. Quinn's agent wants him to get paid like he's the man, and to some that's fair too.

I think the bigger question, at least in mind, is do players respect the game anymore? I'm sure people that know Quinn personally will tell you,to a person, that Brady loves Cleveland, loves football, blah, blah. But couldn't he step in and end this and bring his ass to camp? It's bad enough you have guys that are already in the league that have this sense of entitlement. Lance Briggs and Strahan are two that jump out at me for some reason.

But now a days, you have these kids coming straight out of college that want it all. Help me out here please....

ESPN - Browns impatient as QB Quinn holdout continues - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2960669)

I think they could meet somewhere in the middle on this one, I don't think Quinn should be paid like a top ten pick because he wasn't one, but on the other hand he's a top ten talent. Pay him like the 16th draft pick would be paid, that's kinda meeting in the middle. And if all that Quinn loves football, loves Cleveland, talk is true, then he would've accepted the first thing they threw at him because he wouldn't want to miss any time.

I agree. The Browns know they got lucky to get the kid at 22, but by the same token you would think he wouldn't be playing hard ball with them. He's definitely falling out of favor with the fans every day this thing lingers.

I hate to say it, but I think playing at USC breeds this mentality in these college athletes. They're constantly in the spot light and placed on a pedal stool.

I don't see Quinn's point of view in even the slightest bit. If he was a "top QB prospect", then somebody would have taken him higher. The fact that 21 teams passed on him means exactly this: there are 21 players deemed to be worth more to their teams.

He should shut up and get paid like the 22nd pick.

Easy for me to say, because it's millions of dollars at stake. But you can't deny the logic.

I agree. The Browns know they got lucky to get the kid at 22, but by the same token you would think he wouldn't be playing hard ball with them. He's definitely falling out of favor with the fans every day this thing lingers.

I hate to say it, but I think playing at USC breeds this mentality in these college athletes. They're constantly in the spot light and placed on a peddle stool.

But what does USC have to do with Brady Quinn? Didn't he play at Notre Dame?

I think I can't begrudge the man for going for as much as possible. That said though, whether or not he's a top 10 talent shouldn't matter as much as where he actually selected. You can load up his contract with incentives but the basics of the salary should be relatively in accordance with where he was selected, in my opinion.

I agree. The Browns know they got lucky to get the kid at 22, but by the same token you would think he wouldn't be playing hard ball with them. He's definitely falling out of favor with the fans every day this thing lingers.

I hate to say it, but I think playing at USC breeds this mentality in these college athletes. They're constantly in the spot light and placed on a peddle stool.

Quinn played at Notre Dame. But the USC effect you speak of might still apply to ND players; no college gets ND's national TV coverage.

Oh shit...too many beers...ummm...I thinking about that asshole Leinert. (sp)
Funny...damn!! You guys know what I mean!!!

Oh shit...too many beers...ummm...I thinking about that asshole Leinert. (sp)
Funny...damn!! You guys know what I mean!!!

Well one thing's for damn sure... Leinart is a major asshole!

you know that's one of the things i think i appreciate about the skins under gibbs. i honestly think these guys want to win and care about the team and the city. for the most part this seems like a pretty level headed bunch.

i can't really think of one guy i would consider an asshole on the skins...

....then again, lloyd is pretty close. the jury's still out on him...