Is Brady Quinn Being Selfish By Holding Out?

The reality with Quinn is he was the benefactor of a pro style offense, with an offensive guru guiding him, and the offense to success, that is why teams passed on him, Quinn is not the second coming of any known great QB, this is not a player who's going to put a team on his back. He should look for a big pay day before the book is out on him, I don't think he will be any thing special.

Still, I'm shocked that Campbell's deal wasn't leaps and bounds better than Rodgers'.

It's simple. It doesn't matter whether someone moved up to get you or not. Look at history. Campbell didn't get a better deal than Rodgers because Rodgers got picked one spot before him.

The Browns hold all the cards here. NFL Network reported that Quinn did not look very good in the OTA's and minincamps. They said that Derek Anderson was the best QB out of the three. So chances are Quinn isn't even going to start, even if he gets to camp on time.

Since he was picked so late in the 1st round he has no leverage. Get your ass in camp or shut up.

Yeah, totally slipped my mind.

Even still, the price on Quinn was still significantly higher than the price on JC, trading up from the 2nd round as opposed to swapping a pick from one year to the next. And I also think that the fact that the Browns traded up specifically to get Quinn whereas the Skins wanted to target a QB at 25 (and made the trade 3 weeks prior to the draft) definately seperates the value even further.

Still, I'm shocked that Campbell's deal wasn't leaps and bounds better than Rodgers'.

The Skins didn't just swap a pick from one year to the next, we gave up that years 3rd and the following years 1st and 4th.

he probably will be the next tim couch, so he needs all the guaranteed money he can get.

It's pretty simple, the kid was a #22 drafted QB overall in the 1st round. That's it. He should be paid accordingly to that pick and length of contract, no more or less.

If he think's in his own mind he should have gone top 10 and recieve that type cash, well then reality set's in, he didn't.

If he doesn't like the deal and where he was picked in the draft TUFF SHIT, he's gonna end up ridding the pine. The best thing the kid can do for himself is sign a fair deal for his #22 late round draft spot and get to work.

Gotta go with the majority opinion on this page at least. Brady Quinn better get as much money as he can right now. Can anyone say "Jake Plummer Light" as in that would be his upside if he could develop into a watered down version of Plummer. The downside is playing out before our eyes. He is going to get burried on the depth chart and instead of working on his game and going to the film room he will be spending most of his time counting his loot Rod Strickland style.

But then they would have a QB that isn't really a NFL prospect instead of a potential franchise cornerstone. That's a lot worse.
How is that worse? Why is he a potential franchise cornerstone, and Troy Smith isn't? Is it because he played for Charlie Wiess? The guy hasn't won squat! It's not too difficult to play that cupcake ND schedule and put up numbers. Troy Smith is a winner, and a hometown kid who wanted to go to Cleveland. He would be in camp.
As I recall, Ryan Leaf was a potential franchise cornerstone too.

pay like the 22nd pick becuase that is what he was picked as, he does not deserve anymore or anyless. That seams pretty fair in my book he could have gone a lot farther if the browns had not taken him. I think he should feel lucky that he got picked at all in the first round becuase for a little while I really thought he might go in the 2nd.

How is that worse? Why is he a potential franchise cornerstone, and Troy Smith isn't? Is it because he played for Charlie Wiess? The guy hasn't won squat! It's not too difficult to play that cupcake ND schedule and put up numbers. Troy Smith is a winner, and a hometown kid who wanted to go to Cleveland. He would be in camp.
As I recall, Ryan Leaf was a potential franchise cornerstone too.Quinn's going to be good. I think he'll be very good. Some think he'll never reach the pro bowl level, and thats more than reasonable. But I have to question your knowledge of the game if you are comparing Brady Quinn to Ryan Leaf. There are no similarities.

You're essentially saying that the last pick of the 5th round is a better prospect than a guy who up until 3 days before the draft was neck and neck for the first pick. As the saying goes "you're off your rocker!"

Do I know for certain that Troy Smith won't be the next Donovan McNabb? No, I do not. Can I be more than reasonably sure that he's not the prospect Quinn is? Yes, yes I can.

And what's with this "winner" crap? Are you saying that if the Ravens put Troy Smith in at QB, they will automatically beat up on teams like Ohio State did because...Troy Smith has an aura?! Dude, that's non-analysis at its best.