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jdlea
07-17-2007, 09:12 AM
Has there ever been one as bad as that?

LSU and the Canes got into one that was probably as bad as that a couple years ago, I believe. However, I also don't blame Miami for the fight against FIU. FIU started the fight and I think the Canes reacted about the way I would expect them to react. In a sport like football, it's very easy for things to escalate. You have a bunch of guys who feed off of adrenaline and aggression in order to play the game, then, you take a cheap shot at a defenseless holder...FIU deserved what they got.

If Miami hadn't jumped in on the fight everybody would be calling them punks because they let FIU do that to their player. It was a no-win situation for the Canes. Either they look like p***ies or they go out there and defend their own. In this case, I think Miami did what they had to do. It shouldn't have gotten as bad as it did, but someone had to do something.

EARTHQUAKE2689
07-17-2007, 09:16 AM
And LSU won

Monkeydad
07-17-2007, 01:36 PM
The U of Miami isn't bad. It's the culture in the city of Miami that's the problem. You could call them "thug U" but if we look at every place in Miami, I'm sure we can say that the Pharmacies in Miami are "thug pharmacies" and there's also "thug pizza shops", "thug high schools", "thug car dealerships" and "thug shoe stores". It's like Washington D.C. politically...a good person can move to Miami and become caught up in some bad stuff that's all around them...the party scene, the drug scene from all of the immigrants and aliens and rappers that live there, we know there are a lot of whores there for parties and spring/summer breaks...

It's not the University that has the problems with laws and morals, it's the entire city and most of its inhabitants.

Monkeydad
07-19-2007, 03:17 PM
SO...should we now start bashing Virginia and West Virginia schools like we do Florida schools?

The Vick brothers, Pacman...

jsarno
07-19-2007, 03:22 PM
SO...should we now start bashing Virginia and West Virginia schools like we do Florida schools?

The Vick brothers, Pacman...


Not all florida schools are that bad.
Like I posted, Miami is the worst since 1983. (that's in the country, not just florida) But I did see many articles about the schools in virginia. I guess they are trying to catch Miami.

By the way, your last post is true as well...it has a lot to do with the city. I would never in a million years live in Miami.

SmootSmack
07-19-2007, 04:10 PM
all you cane haters should read the SI article by stewart mandel after the brawl.

To quote him:
"You might not believe this -- you might not want to believe this -- but over the past decade, Miami has had fewer player arrests or NCAA-related incidents than almost any other major program in the country. Miami has not had 20-plus incidents involving shoplifting, assault, gun charges and failed drug tests over the past two years, as Tennessee has. Miami has not had to dismiss a star player for earning money through a phony job, as Oklahoma has. Miami has not had a star linebacker accused of sexual assault on the eve of its bowl game as Florida State did last year. And Miami's most recent Academic Progress Rate (956) placed it in the top 20 to 30 percent of all Division I football programs."

I know this contradicts an earlier post, but it's true.

It's all about the U baby!

Just wanted to bump this post since I think many ignored it

jsarno
07-19-2007, 04:38 PM
Just wanted to bump this post since I think many ignored it

I don't think anyone ignored it...but that post, and my post are two different things, and VASTLY different.
1- it says NCAA related issues, nothing about the graduates in the NFL.
2- OK, so they are not as bad as Tenn over the past 2 years...again, NCAA, not NFL.
3- not really sure what the acedemic progress rate has to do with anything. Does this mean they sucked for years, now they are trying to pull up their rates? Also, considering that Miami University is MASSIVE, and the football players take up maybe 1% of the university population, I doubt that means anything about the team...especially when there was accusasions about professors giving grades away for football players. (not sure what came of that)

Fact still remains since 1983, no other NCAA team has had more issues than Miami. They produce the most thug like players. That post does not change this fact.

STBonecrusher21
07-19-2007, 05:11 PM
I like the uniform design.

eskins2000
07-20-2007, 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone ignored it...but that post, and my post are two different things, and VASTLY different.
1- it says NCAA related issues, nothing about the graduates in the NFL.
2- OK, so they are not as bad as Tenn over the past 2 years...again, NCAA, not NFL.
3- not really sure what the acedemic progress rate has to do with anything. Does this mean they sucked for years, now they are trying to pull up their rates? Also, considering that Miami University is MASSIVE, and the football players take up maybe 1% of the university population, I doubt that means anything about the team...especially when there was accusasions about professors giving grades away for football players. (not sure what came of that)

Fact still remains since 1983, no other NCAA team has had more issues than Miami. They produce the most thug like players. That post does not change this fact.

Miami University is massive?

I have two problems with that statement.
1.) It is the University of Miami
2.) Miami has 10,000 undergraduate students, I don't know how that is classified as MASSIVE!!!

The academic progress rate deals only with student-athletes so i guess that MASSIVE 8,000 other undergraduates are excluded from this number.

Since 1983, more issues? That is a little vague.
The most "thug like" players? What does that even mean?

Another tidbit...Miami lead the ACC this year with 8 All Academic FOOTBALL players...more than Duke, Boston College, UNC

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It is ignorant assholes like you that keep the perception that the University of Miami is a "thug program." Sure they have issues in the 80's and they were caught and served serious probation time. They essentially had their scholarships cut in half between 1995-1999...signed track stars like Santana Moss and turned them into football players. The year after probation they went 10-1 and then followed it up with a national championship in 2001. They were one play away from a national championship in '02.

How about a little respect for the program that created some of our favorite Redskins, Moss, Portis, Taylor...and soon to be Rocky.

Did anyone see the Minnesota player who gang rapped a girl with a .3 BAC at party and recorded it...probably not.

jdlea
07-20-2007, 11:49 AM
Miami University is massive?

I have two problems with that statement.
1.) It is the University of Miami
2.) Miami has 10,000 undergraduate students, I don't know how that is classified as MASSIVE!!!

The academic progress rate deals only with student-athletes so i guess that MASSIVE 8,000 other undergraduates are excluded from this number.

Since 1983, more issues? That is a little vague.
The most "thug like" players? What does that even mean?

Another tidbit...Miami lead the ACC this year with 8 All Academic FOOTBALL players...more than Duke, Boston College, UNC

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It is ignorant assholes like you that keep the perception that the University of Miami is a "thug program." Sure they have issues in the 80's and they were caught and served serious probation time. They essentially had their scholarships cut in half between 1995-1999...signed track stars like Santana Moss and turned them into football players. The year after probation they went 10-1 and then followed it up with a national championship in 2001. They were one play away from a national championship in '02.

How about a little respect for the program that created some of our favorite Redskins, Moss, Portis, Taylor...and soon to be Rocky.

Did anyone see the Minnesota player who gang rapped a girl with a .3 BAC at party and recorded it...probably not.

You do make some good points in that post, but there was no need for the name calling.

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