FRPLG
07-13-2007, 04:14 PM
I didn't watch the clip but what's his point, repeat offenders should be shot?
I was quoting it because of the "over the topness" of of it. Not that I agreed with it.
He laid out several instances where not having a gun cost people's lives. He did it in a sarcastic tone and proclaimed "I am weird" several times meaning "I am weird when I think people shouldn't be able to protect themselves". Then he wrapped it all up by talking how all the instances he gave were repeat offenders and that had they been shot they wouldn't have caused anymore harm. Then the line was said.
It is not long. You should watch it for entertainment value.
skinsfan_nn
07-13-2007, 04:53 PM
Life isn't a video game or a movie.
No shit! Who said it was.
skinsfan_nn
07-13-2007, 05:04 PM
Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?
I think your speaking about yourself, no mullets on this end.
Let me guess your scared of legal gun toters and hunters to.....tuff shit!
jsarno
07-13-2007, 05:05 PM
No shit! Who said it was.
Uh oh...hostility alert! LOL
It never ceases to amaze me how we as humans can get into such heated arguments over things that we generally have no control over. (myself included)
saden1
07-13-2007, 05:15 PM
No shit! Who said it was.
Your post implied it and I inferred that perhaps you think it is. You're 42, don't you think you're a bit too old for honing your street fighting skills from time to time?
p.s. I'm a chicken shit and I've been sheltered my whole life so you'll have to excuse me.
saden1
07-13-2007, 05:17 PM
Yes but if the assailant is crrying a gun and you are not then are clearly at a disadvantage. As has been said those looking to hurt me of my family are probably not too keen on following gun laws. Being able to have a gun to defend myself from them should be a natural right.
Anwyas I tend to agree with you but thought you were a little off base with that initial statement. I don't advocate a totally uncontrolled gun population either. I just find the arguments that guns aren't really protective silly.
If someone wants to kill you're always at a disadvantage, whether you're packing or not.
skinsfan_nn
07-13-2007, 05:21 PM
Your post implied it and inferred that perhaps you think it is. You're 42, don't you think you're a bit too old for honing your street fighting skills from time to time?
p.s. I'm a chicken shit and I've been sheltered my whole life so you'll have to excuse me.
Never to old bro, wake up. I don't mind controlled fighting either, you have to be capable of protecting yourself and I don't know how old you are and don't rightly care, because it doesn't matter, same rule applies.
P.S. No problem, your excused! lol
Riggo44
07-13-2007, 05:22 PM
Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?
Hahaha I think I found a pic of skinsfan_nn.:joke:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w316/redskins5605/joedirt06.jpg
Beemnseven
07-13-2007, 05:22 PM
What's wrong with the following statement? If you can't spot the fallacy then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
The government isn't doing a good job of keeping offenders in jail. Therefore every citizen should own a gun to protect themselves.
I think what he's trying to say is that in the end, each individual is ultimately responsible for protecting himself. 9 times out of 10, the government and the police are there to apprehend and incarcerate those who have already committed a crime. By then, it's too late for the victim.
The key here is individual rights. You have the right to protect yourself and your family with deadly force, if faced by an aggressor with a deadly weapon. No, the good guys don't always win. Surprise is the advantage of the attacker. And many times, that can be the deciding factor. But it's far better to be armed with fighting chance, than to be unarmed with no chance at all.
djnemo65
07-13-2007, 05:22 PM
Well all you have to do is compare the murder rate in the US with other modern industrial countries in which guns are prohibited. The US is significantly higher. For those who argue that guns deter crime, how do you explain that discrepancy?