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skinsfan_nn 07-13-2007, 02:36 PM I wonder how effective Nugent's concealed weapon would be if someone sneaks up on him in the grocery store and put a bullet in his head? Preferably using a gun with a silencer.
Nugent is an idiot.
Why don't you sneak up on him and find out?
What would any person with one ounce of common sence that is a law obeying citizen have against anyone with a concealed weapons permit, explain that?
Why is Nugent an idiot?
Beemnseven 07-13-2007, 02:41 PM I've never understood those who argue in favor of being defenseless.
saden1 07-13-2007, 02:46 PM Clearly you don't get it. The point I was trying to make is you can not defend yourself by carrying a gun. If everyone is packing you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever.
The argument that somehow carrying a gun eliminates or reduces the incentive for someone wanting to off you is absurd. They'll simply go about it smarter.
I like guns, I go to the gun range a few times a year but I really don't think we should play laissez-faire with guns and go back to the wild wild west.
Clearly you don't get it. The point I was trying to make is you can not defend yourself by carrying a gun. If everyone is packing you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever.
The argument that somehow carrying a gun eliminates or reduces the incentive for someone wanting to off you is absurd. They'll simply go about it smarter.
I like guns, I go to the gun range a few times a year but I really don't think we should play laissez-faire with guns and go back to the wild wild west.
The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????
jsarno 07-13-2007, 03:22 PM The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????
Well said, and I agree. I just don't see a way of fixing the actual problem. Taking away guns is not the answer cause the thugs of the world will still find a way of getting their hands on them...giving too many guns to everyone could cause an issue of some kid that normally wouldn't do anything stupid the opportunity to do something stupid. Throw in the crowded jail system and we just have an ugly mess.
I still hold to the thought "you can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold dead fingers".
That Guy 07-13-2007, 03:28 PM gun control only controls guns for those that abide by laws in the first place.
If you're going to kill someone anyways, i doubt a weapons charge is really going to make you think twice.
saden1 07-13-2007, 03:33 PM The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????
What's wrong with the following statement? If you can't spot the fallacy then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
The government isn't doing a good job of keeping offenders in jail. Therefore every citizen should own a gun to protect themselves.
skinsfan_nn 07-13-2007, 03:50 PM I've never understood those who argue in favor of being defenseless.
Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.
However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!
This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.
Unlike UNCLE TED!
SmootSmack 07-13-2007, 03:56 PM Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.
However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!
This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.
Unlike UNCLE TED!
By your logic though, I wouldn't have the right-but rather the requirement-to carry a gun. And what if I don't want to carry a gun? What if some kid's mom decides she doesn't want to pack heat with a child around and she gets shot? Do you then say "Well, she was supposed to carry a gun. Not our fault"
Those that aren't for guns for all aren't spoiled crybabies.
Geez, I HATE these tests! Just like the damn SAT!
I personally don't believe the gov't is doing a good job of almost anything in the justice system.
Oh shit, there's a part B:
I honestly don't know if every citizen should own a gun. While cons are citizens, I would not advocate their gun ownership. While persons having been judged, or demonstrated to be incompetent, violent, or just to F...n crazy, I would not advocate the ownership of a gun.
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