Ted Nugent on Gun Control

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Lady Brave
07-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Well, #1- who says it HAS to be near the courthouse (rhetorical)? #2- Build UP.
I am not mistaken prisons for jails...to me I think it's moronic that we have restrictions on jails, there is no need for them. They should be and could be anywhere. There will always be someone there to complain, so if that happens, then move them outside of town where no one is.
While I do think we need more prisons, we need more jails even more.
We can have 50-75 inmates scheduled for court everyday, not to mention the federal inmates we house for federal court. They have to be in close proximity to the courthouses due to transportation/security issues. We have 2 courthouses/jails in our county. It would be a nightmare transporting them all over the county everyday. People complain that the courts don't run efficiently enough. If the inmates weren't close by it would slow them down even more.

Most jails like ours are old and aren't rated for expansion. Plus, where do you put the inmates while you're renovating? The newer jails being built today are being built with expansion in mind.

jsarno
07-17-2007, 06:58 PM
We can have 50-75 inmates scheduled for court everyday, not to mention the federal inmates we house for federal court. They have to be in close proximity to the courthouses due to transportation/security issues. We have 2 courthouses/jails in our county. It would be a nightmare transporting them all over the county everyday. People complain that the courts don't run efficiently enough. If the inmates weren't close by it would slow them down even more.

Most jails like ours are old and aren't rated for expansion. Plus, where do you put the inmates while you're renovating? The newer jails being built today are being built with expansion in mind.

You make good points LB, but to transport criminals 1 hour (say), is no big deal. It can easily be done.
I'm not saying to house N.C's criminals here in the desert, I was just pointing out that we have a ton of space here...I know the east coast is tougher, but you have areas with plenty of space too.
Cambridge, MA houses a lot of criminals, it is right outside of Boston, and it looks like a normal building. If you didn't know any better you would just think it was an average building. A lot of cities should think about building multi level jails. You go up a good 20-50 floors to house these people, but make the building blend in with other buildings.
Build a jail outside of town, a large one, then move all the inmates...when they are moved, then you renovate the old one, now you have 4 times the room to house these people.

Lady Brave
07-17-2007, 07:13 PM
You make good points LB, but to transport criminals 1 hour (say), is no big deal. It can easily be done.
I'm not saying to house N.C's criminals here in the desert, I was just pointing out that we have a ton of space here...I know the east coast is tougher, but you have areas with plenty of space too.
Cambridge, MA houses a lot of criminals, it is right outside of Boston, and it looks like a normal building. If you didn't know any better you would just think it was an average building. A lot of cities should think about building multi level jails. You go up a good 20-50 floors to house these people, but make the building blend in with other buildings.
Build a jail outside of town, a large one, then move all the inmates...when they are moved, then you renovate the old one, now you have 4 times the room to house these people.
Ok, that made me LOL.

Two questions:

Have you ever worked in detention?

How do you pay for a jail when no one wants to raise taxes to pay for it?

jsarno
07-17-2007, 08:18 PM
Ok, that made me LOL.

Two questions:

Have you ever worked in detention?

How do you pay for a jail when no one wants to raise taxes to pay for it?

No, I have not...why have you?

Well, there comes a time when you should do it for the sake of the community. It could be "required" if need be.

Lady Brave
07-17-2007, 08:27 PM
No, I have not...why have you?

Well, there comes a time when you should do it for the sake of the community. It could be "required" if need be.
I thought you knew about my background. 8 years as Criminal Superior Court Clerk. In my current position (5 years) I do two jobs -Administrative Assistant to the Captain of a Detention Facility and I run background checks/process handgun permit applicants.

itvnetop
07-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, but LB... that youtube vid on your sig is hilarious!

Lady Brave
07-17-2007, 08:33 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, but LB... that youtube vid on your sig is hilarious!
It is funny. Kinda weird, but funny. :)

jsarno
07-17-2007, 08:35 PM
I thought you knew about my background. 8 years as Criminal Superior Court Clerk. In my current position (5 years) I do two jobs -Administrative Assistant to the Captain of a Detention Facility and I run background checks/process handgun permit applicants.

You probably said it, but my memory isn't the greatest.

So why would it be so hard to escort people from an hour away? At least now I can get a good answer as to why rather than speculation.

jsarno
07-17-2007, 08:44 PM
It is funny. Kinda weird, but funny. :)

That is pretty gay.
While it does sound like common arguments here, it's still pretty damn gay.

Lady Brave
07-17-2007, 08:54 PM
You probably said it, but my memory isn't the greatest.

So why would it be so hard to escort people from an hour away? At least now I can get a good answer as to why rather than speculation.
It's basically about efficiency. We need to get the inmates in and out of court as fast as possible. I'll give you one example. Let's say the DA starts a trial, but the case breaks down and he decides to start calling jail cases. If those inmates are a considerable distance away it would take too much time to round them up and transport them. Also, some inmates don't like to go quietly so that adds more time. The DA doesn't usually plan ahead for a trial breaking down because that would mean putting too many defense attorney's on stand by. Feeding them would be a nightmare.

Counties typically don't want to spend money on the extra transportation cost and man power it would take to transport the inmates. Attorney's, agency reps, probation officers and visitors don't want to have to go multiple locations to conduct court/jail business. They tend to like one stop shopping.

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