Snyder ranked as league's 5th best owner

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Rajmahal33
07-03-2007, 10:54 AM
I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2568057)

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill
#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/34/biz_07soccer_Manchester-United_340001.html)

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/33/07mlb_New-York-Yankees_334613.html)

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/34/biz_07soccer_Real-Madrid_340002.html)

hooskins
07-03-2007, 11:31 AM
I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2568057)

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill
#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/34/biz_07soccer_Manchester-United_340001.html)

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/33/07mlb_New-York-Yankees_334613.html)

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/34/biz_07soccer_Real-Madrid_340002.html)

Assuming these numbers we are the 2nd most right behind Man U. I think thaty is just the way these numbers are lining up though because the Skins one is from 06.

Mc2guy
07-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Can you imagine where that value would go if we could actually win a few playoff games and *gasp* a championship.

Synder did a good job of taking over a very valuable franchise and making it more valuable, but I don't consider it any stroke of genius. The primary reasons for the Redskins profitability is a large and mostly affluent regional fan base (ticket prices are "affordable" by regional standards), and an enormous and wholly owned stadium in which to pack all those affluent ticket purchasers. Neither of those creations are due to Synder...both came before he bought the team.

Where he has excelled is in the ancillary marketing and sales, e.g., owned media whereby advertizing revenue goes to the team, shrewd local TV distribution contracts, and non-competitive event revenue (beach blitz, etc)...things that all owners could do in theory but don't. Frankly what Snyder has done is pretty simple in terms of revenue extraction, and it doesn't take a genius to market a product on which you have a monopoly.

I'll give credit to Synder the NFL team owner when he wins a ring, until then he's just a good marketer with a confidence problem using his cash to overcome his management shortcomings. Personally, I'd rank him closer to 11 or 12.

70Chip
07-03-2007, 04:26 PM
The piece makes it sound like he went after Saunders in spite of Gibbs. Gibbs was the one who wanted Saunders. The dunderheads who cover the league seem oblivious to the fact that all the football decisions in the last three years have been made by Gibbs. But then they couldn't portray Snyder as the control freak and then where would they be? They rely on on those stock portraits of various figures so they don't have to actually find out what goes on. ESPN is exactly the same. This is more attrocious writing from SI. Every time I click on one of their links, it gets worse.

That Guy
07-03-2007, 11:57 PM
5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.

EARTHQUAKE2689
07-04-2007, 01:11 AM
Synder number 5 BS to me.

wolfeskins
07-04-2007, 10:42 AM
5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.



being a good owner is more then just winning. mr. snyder is getting better at giving control to the people who should have it (gibbs). when snyder first became owner of the skins he was already a better owner then some of the other ones, even though he made some horrible player aquisitions. snyder was just trying to win, you can't blame him for that, he just went about it the wrong way.


he brought gibbs out of retirement and he's letting gibbs run the show, in the meantime he is bringing in any and every player/coach that gibbs wants. how is that being a turd ?

Rajmahal33
07-04-2007, 11:10 AM
I agree with the article when it says that eventually Snyder will get it right. he is young and he has a long time left with the skins. There will be more mistakes and failed strategies but eventually we will win another superbowl. I would rather have an owner who is actively trying to win than one who does nothing (a la Abe Pollin and the Wizards) and pisses away talented youth. The window of opportunity of winning in the NFL is short and u need someone who is willing to jump on the opportunity when it arises, which snyder definitely tries to do.

Defensewins
07-04-2007, 11:28 AM
The Skins are valued #1 in all of sports

ESPN.com: SPORTSBUSINESS - Forbes Franchise Values (http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html)
No that is incorrect, the Skins are not #1 in all of sports/WORLD. Although they are in the top 3 somewhere.
That list just ranks the Redskins as #1 in the United States based sports (NFL, NHL,NBA) but not in the world. Real Madrid and Manchester United and most likely AC Milan are higher valued. Real and Man U's have their own TV deals.
Just with that alone they eclipse the redskins earning power and worth. Real Madrids new TV deal is worth $1.4 Billion over 6 years.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117954266.html?categoryid=14&cs=1


Plus Real's and Man U's merchindise is sold oll over the world, they are the two most popular teams in the WORLD. There are many coutries that have never heard of the Washington Redskins.

Regarding Snyder ranking high, that is great, but I would rather be a consistant winner and win Superbowls than rank high in this catagory. Snyder has been a #1 owner in making money and in bussiness, that is awesome! But he has not been great at what counts most, being a smart NFL owner is it realtes to winning.

Giantone
07-04-2007, 02:42 PM
aren't the redskins the most valuable franchise at like 1.6 billion?


Yes , Thanks to JKC....the man was smart ,80% of the Skins value is in realestate.Anyone that puts Dan Snyder ahead of the Rooney's is a fool .Take a look at the list Jerry Jones?????

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