Rank our OLine among the 32 teams

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TheMalcolmConnection
06-28-2007, 04:15 PM
You think they can't protect him or he just sucks at passing?

jdlea
06-28-2007, 04:21 PM
San Diego and Indy are better hands down. I would also say there are a handful of teams in the same category: ATL, NO, SF, BAL, PIT...just to name a few. However, I think they're a top 10 offensive line and certainly cannot be #32, I'm pretty sure that's been a staple of the Houston Texans franchise since their inception.

MTK
06-28-2007, 04:23 PM
A mobile QB can be hard to protect since you don't know where he's going to be all the time. It's hard to maintain a pocket when the QB doesn't want to stay in it.

I'd guess that Vick brings a lot of sacks on himself by scrambling around and not getting rid of the ball quickly enough.

Mc2guy
06-28-2007, 04:48 PM
This is as good a way of ranking OLs as I've seen...

Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: Quality Stats: 2006 Offensive Hog Index (http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1024&Category=2)

That is great stuff and very much in line with my previous post re: rankings. The only surprise to me was Indy being so low. They are ranked #1 in NPP% and they are far ahead of #2. Since they are a pass first team with the best QB in the league I have to believe they should be ranked higher by this measure.

Maybe you could adjust these rankings by weighting the run blocking ranking and the negative pass play ranking by the percentage of total yard gained by rushing or passing over the season. That way a primarily running team would get more credit for having a high yards/carry, and a primarily passing team would get more credit for being great pass blockers.

FRPLG
06-28-2007, 05:07 PM
San Diego and Indy are better hands down. I would also say there are a handful of teams in the same category: ATL, NO, SF, BAL, PIT...just to name a few. However, I think they're a top 10 offensive line and certainly cannot be #32, I'm pretty sure that's been a staple of the Houston Texans franchise since their inception.

Well structured offenses make a very good line look great. I think both SD and Indy are examples. The fact that each has an offense that simply clicks in the passing game really reduces the strain on the OL. They are both very good for sure. I am hopeful that our passing game can improve to the point that the mechanics and execution of our passing game make our line look even better.

jdlea
06-28-2007, 05:26 PM
Well structured offenses make a very good line look great. I think both SD and Indy are examples. The fact that each has an offense that simply clicks in the passing game really reduces the strain on the OL. They are both very good for sure. I am hopeful that our passing game can improve to the point that the mechanics and execution of our passing game make our line look even better.

I don't disagree. However, those two teams had both a great running and passing attack. Therefore, I have to come to the conclusion that they have 2 of the best lines in all of football. It all starts up front.

davy
06-28-2007, 06:17 PM
That is great stuff and very much in line with my previous post re: rankings. The only surprise to me was Indy being so low. They are ranked #1 in NPP% and they are far ahead of #2. Since they are a pass first team with the best QB in the league I have to believe they should be ranked higher by this measure.

Maybe you could adjust these rankings by weighting the run blocking ranking and the negative pass play ranking by the percentage of total yard gained by rushing or passing over the season. That way a primarily running team would get more credit for having a high yards/carry, and a primarily passing team would get more credit for being great pass blockers.

Good points, you could also argue that their lowly rank in TOP has more to do with there quick-score ability and the defense being unable to stop the run for most of the season rather than any deficit in the OL.

EARTHQUAKE2689
06-28-2007, 08:10 PM
I was ranking our O-line based before the chiefs guys retired.

BigSKINBauer
06-29-2007, 12:01 PM
ESPN - Maryland's Gaither applies for supplemental draft - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2920248)

Dumbass couldn't keep his grades up and now is going to the supplimental draft. Good player maybe some backup on the o-line?

They say he might go in the mid rounds maybe as early as the third. He is viewed as the best player in the supplemental draft. Vikings are also showing heavy interest.

GTripp0012
06-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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